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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:42 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:47 pm 
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thesameguy wrote:
Just for my understanding, what are you referring to when you say "letting pressure go?"

The thing that BPV/BOV usually solves is compressor surge (sometimes called flutter, I think) which occurs in moments of high pressure and low flow. The common scenario for this is going to be a gasoline engine where the throttle plate snaps shut (like during a shift) and there is still high pressure between the compressor and throttle plate but little to no flow. That's this:

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Aside from being bad for performance, it's also very hard on a compressor. Moving that direction on the map creates a reaction force against the wheel slowing it down. It also puts a massive thrust load on the turbo's bearings and fatigues the surface of the compressor wheel. Over time, it will wreck the bearings or start tearing the wheel apart.

On a diesel, X rpm = X airflow no matter how you slice it, right? I don't really understand how you can get this high pressure / low flow scenario to unfold on a diesel. It's a bit baffling to me!


I'm with you for the theory, no problem with that !!! X rpm = X airflow !

But sometime it's a little more complicated than that.

Geordi with his Jack of all trades explanation doesn't help at all.

And again I worked on a high HP diesel racing truck using a massive BOV !!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:03 pm 
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What kind of racing? I'm assuming drag?

Regardless, I'd bet that when you're talking about high dollar engine builds powered by high dollar turbos, spending a couple hundred bucks on a just in case BOV is money well spent. Worst case, you wasted a couple hundred bucks. Best case, you saved several thousands. Makes good sense to me. :)


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:20 pm 
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thesameguy wrote:
What kind of racing? I'm assuming drag?

Regardless, I'd bet that when you're talking about high dollar engine builds powered by high dollar turbos, spending a couple hundred bucks on a just in case BOV is money well spent. Worst case, you wasted a couple hundred bucks. Best case, you saved several thousands. Makes good sense to me. :)


Yes drag racing

Sorry it's not a BOV I'm talking about it's a external wastegate ( Exhaust side )

It was shooting flames all the way down the strip !!!


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:35 pm 
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Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh…. that makes way more sense. The CRD (ostensibly) doesn't need a wastegate as the variable vane design prevents an overboost scenario. But I believe variable vane turbos aren't terribly sturdy - they're not the type of thing you'd use trying to make max power, so you'd definitely need a wastegate. An external wastegate out to the atmosphere would definitely put on quite a light show. :D


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
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I'm with you for the theory, no problem with that !!! X rpm = X airflow !

But sometime it's a little more complicated than that.

Geordi with his Jack of all trades explanation doesn't help at all.

And again I worked on a high HP diesel racing truck using a massive BOV !!!!!


Why are y'all mining a freakin 5 year old post, for opportunities fling poo at other members? That's pretty ridiculous. 5 years changes most people as they learn and improve. Others just live in the past.

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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
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Why are y'all mining a freakin 5 year old post, for opportunities fling poo at other members? That's pretty ridiculous. 5 years changes most people as they learn and improve. Others just live in the past.


Because for whatever reason, PZKW has never liked me or cared much for my attempts to help other people. I've never met this user or worked on their vehicle, but they think they know everything about me and my knowledge and experience. There was another zombie post that popped up recently from the same period where Jeff claimed that I had some ability to control his existence on this board. It was and is untrue, and slander... But they are free to espouse whatever misguided opinions they like. I stand behind my work and my posts, and the very long list of satisfied customers are my only advertising needed.

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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:02 pm 
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GordnadoCRD wrote:
PZKW108 wrote:

I'm with you for the theory, no problem with that !!! X rpm = X airflow !

But sometime it's a little more complicated than that.

Geordi with his Jack of all trades explanation doesn't help at all.

And again I worked on a high HP diesel racing truck using a massive BOV !!!!!


Why are y'all mining a freakin 5 year old post, for opportunities fling poo at other members? That's pretty ridiculous. 5 years changes most people as they learn and improve. Others just live in the past.


Your accusation would make sense if I was the one who brought this up....

But it wasn't.....

The tread came up and I reply to it ! I didn't look at the date !

I'm not digging old geordi's posts...……

And I think geordi is big mouthed enough to defend himself !!!


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
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No I'm the one who brought it up I submitted a new thread but posted here first.


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:14 pm 
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Vmcrdrod wrote:
No I'm the one who brought it up I submitted a new thread but posted here first.




By submitting a reply to this tread on Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:29 am. Youhave brought this tread back on top of the list...…

No big deal it's allowed :CAMPING:


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 Post subject: Re: CRD blowoff valve?
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GordnadoCRD wrote:

Why are y'all mining a freakin 5 year old post, for opportunities fling poo at other members? That's pretty ridiculous. 5 years changes most people as they learn and improve. Others just live in the past.



There are probably a dozen or so first class members on this site when it comes to the CRD engine.
You & geordi are 2 of them. I think most members realize this & so choose to ignore the BS from random keyboard cowboys.

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