cerich wrote:
Shamelessly taken from another CRD forum! Sounds good actually. This guy does lots of postings and seems to know what he is talking about
"Yesterday I had the Recall F37 done. If you have a 2005 CRD the recall takes 4.5 hours and the 2006 CRD takes 5.5 hours to do. Our recall took all of 5 hours. (we have a 2005) The ride from the dealer to our home is about 1 and 1/2 hours. The ONLY difference we noticed was the transmission now shifts into 5 OD at 50 Mph! The rpm at that speed is just a hair above 1500 rpm. We noticed a more firm shift and the shifts seem to be made quicker. If there is any decrease in torque or Hp it is so small of an amount it can't be detected. If this has been dome and I did not know about the recall being done, I would not have known it except for the shifting being more firm and going into 5 OD at 50 mph. The 5 OF at 50 mph is an improvement in my estimation. So I would say get the recall done at your earliest time.
I asked the service writer why this recall was being done, and he said he would have an answer when we picked up the Jeep that evening. What I got was 36 pages of the recall notice and a step by step how to do this recall for the Tec doing the work. The 36 pages are very detailed, and it has steps to follow for the 2005 CRD and the 2006 CRD. I do not know what but there is some difference between the two years. The instructions also tells what to do if there is no indication that there is a problem with the transmission. Not all CRD's get the TC, some get other transmission work done. There is several steps and different repairs for different things found. Some get the radiator and fan removed to do the work as well.
Just a bit of information I found in these 36 pages. There were 11,200 CRDs made from the start in late 2004 to may 2006 for a total of 11,000. Then between may 06 to Nov. 2 2006, 200 more CRD's were made at different times. So what ever these 200 more CRD's are used for is unknown at this time. Maybe more testing was needed, or ........?
I hope that this gives someone here some idea what this recall is like.
Farout "
With my 37 pages in front of me I can tell you this report listed above is at best partially wrong. All affected get the torque converter - the only variance is whether or not you also get a transmission pump, new transmission filters, a complete transmission flush, and a new transmission cooler.
It's either one option or the other, no other variations - just the torque converter, or the TQ and all other things listed.
I went back to my dealership on my way home with a copy of page number 5 that details the decision on which path to take, and how it's based on a highly subjective notion of what kind of sound the tech hears from the "torque converter area" upon initial inspection. I voiced my concern that anything less than the FULL recall is unacceptable as I have hear this sound, intermittently, in my garage when I check my transmission fluid and the CRD is idling - I do not want a tech deciding my fate. They actually proceeded to give me attitude that they "have to follow procedure exactly and that will determine what path is taken." To which I had to show them the deciding factor is purely subjective. My service advisor was not receptive, but the two others standing there were. I left my paperwork there with my SA and instructed him to give this to the tech AND the service manager and he said he would do it. Whether or not it happens I have no idea, but I've done all I can do.
This is exactly the kind of crap I can't stand from US car dealers and US service departments and shame on DC for producing a recall that is only half-baked and left to the discretion of each individul tech with random results to be received by all 11,200+ involved.
I for one say folks should get this done as I'm certain it's the last support of any kind we will see for the CRD - after this, we are on our own - so if you can only get the half-baked option it's still better than nothing. Once your vehicle is out of the basic warranty, they don't have to do it as it's labeled more like a TSB than a recall.
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