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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:33 pm 
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Give me a break! I'll change the freaking oil first. I change it anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:41 pm 
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Oh wait did I tell you that if you change your own oil it to can VOID THE WARRANTY!! Trust me I went round and round with VW on this one and I am a VW Diesel Tech,I am trying to make a point nothing more.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:44 pm 
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I appreciate INMotion shooting straight on this. I appreciate candor and will remember it if I get ready to do this - post warranty.


So do I.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:03 pm 
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Got Diesel wrote:
Ok since it's going down this way READ:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/bus ... rranty.htm
Going down??? Not sure I like the tone of that but maybe it was poorly expressed. The link quoted will not protect you if the ECM has been opened, let alone modified.

InMotion I think said the same thing I did, maybe a little more detailed.

As for the B20 doubt the average tech or Service Manager could smell or tell the difference, but yes it is a chance you take for having a warranty voided. If you have blown a piston and D/C ask for a oil sample test your had, if however you have a IP failure the only way to know for sure you used B20 will be a fuel test at a lab. That is not to say the individual dealer may or may not request one, generally all they do is pump some fuel into a clear container and look at it, seen it done many times. Last time was Thursday. If you have bought bad fuel at a local station then you have recource with the fuel provider by federal law however you might be out the $$$ first then be reimbersed.

I have seen D/C kick back warranty repairs to dealers on parts returned to them because they were signs of abuse or tampering. Local dealership is about to have some really big problems shortly just due to allowing none certified tech's do work on some vehicles and possible ECMs that were tampered with, the SM for that period has already gone elsewhere for work. Worst case of kicked back warranty I ever saw was $97,000 for a one year period of repairs at one of the smallest dealers in the country.

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Got Diesel wrote:
Oh wait did I tell you that if you change your own oil it to can VOID THE WARRANTY!! Trust me I went round and round with VW on this one and I am a VW Diesel Tech,I am trying to make a point nothing more.
Actually they can't, seen VW, Honda and a Ford dealer try and in a couple cases win because of failure to keep records by individual. Remember if you have the reciepts or a written log of your oil and filter changes you will be in good shape. Again the burden of proof is on you when you do your own service or have it done somewhere other then the dealer. That is why I buy OEM parts, even my filters till warranty is over at least.

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Walt, VW can..
Have a good day.

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Walt, VW can..
Have a good day.
Wrong, been there done that routine. Remember I owned a couple of VW's and been a member ot the TDI forum for about 6 years, and have a couple of friends that work for VW, been a SM for a CDJS before and have a far more indepth knowlege of the system then average tech.

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Walt,Time to take this off line,you have a PM.

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Got the CRD back from dealer on Friday the 14th.Runs + shifts like a brand new vehicle.OD comes in at 50 mph,no stutter(never had any to begin with).It didn't need the front pump.This is an April '05 build date vehiclr w/15,000 Miles on it.It's always run like a charm,but hey,since this stuff is FREE,Why not!Kurt


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I took my Liberty in last week for the F37. It is still there not running. (5 days now) They say it will not accept the new program. I am still waiting this week for an answer on whether they have an answer from DC on how to get this vehicle back to me.


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crd liberty wrote:
I took my Liberty in last week for the F37. It is still there not running. (5 days now) They say it will not accept the new program. I am still waiting this week for an answer on whether they have an answer from DC on how to get this vehicle back to me.


Just curious if they have offered you a loaner/rental car for your trouble?

....and welcome to the forum. I see you are new.

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crd liberty wrote:
I took my Liberty in last week for the F37. It is still there not running. (5 days now) They say it will not accept the new program. I am still waiting this week for an answer on whether they have an answer from DC on how to get this vehicle back to me.


Just curious if they have offered you a loaner/rental car for your trouble?

....and welcome to the forum. I see you are new.


They did give me a loaner car (05 Liberty 2 wheel drive). They also told me last Friday that DC told them to replace a control module, which they did. Saturday, I called and it will still not accept the program which means it will not even crank. Today is Monday, so I am waiting to see what other bad news is coming.


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I had F37 performaed about a week ago. After about 400+ miles I have no complaints. I checked the tranny fluid and the level is fine.

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Mine has been at the dealer for 2 WEEKS.

The pump arrived late last Friday so the tech installing it this AM

Hope I'll have it this afternoon :D

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 Post subject: Vin range for F37 recall ?? Or build date
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Does anyone know the vin range or the build date range for the recall?
If no one knows - list your build date if you got the notice.

mine is Dec 2005 and it is not listed on the Jeep.com site (Canadian vehicle)

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 Post subject: Re: Vin range for F37 recall ?? Or build date
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:35 pm 
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Does anyone know the vin range or the build date range for the recall?
If no one knows - list your build date if you got the notice.


Build date 1 April 06
This unit is NOT listed on Jeep's website for the F37, nor for the ball joints,

have only received notice for the F31 (Reprogram TCM for aftermarket scan tool).


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