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Author:  dauntless [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:  CRD Stalling
Does anyone else have a problem with their CRD stalling? Mine stalls a couple times a month when cold, and only occassionaly in the summer. So far, it has always happened within the first few minutes of driving. It is not a gentle stall where the motor just quits, rather it bucks/surges somewhat violently for a second and comes to a sudden stop. Kind of like letting off the clutch of a manual transmission while in gear at a stop. I have had it in to the dealer a couple of times, and of course it will not do it when they have it, and they said that Chrysler told them that they had never heard of this problem before. I had really high hopes that the F37 "recall" would take care of this. I had the full recall done Friday, including the new pump, but today when I went to pull out of the garage it stalled again. I am at a loss as to what to do next. I would like to know if anyone else is having this problem so that I can at least show them that I am not the only one.
Author:  gd5092 [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:18 pm ]
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Have you checked for air in fuel line, water or tried different fuel source ?.

-G
Author:  BlackLibertyCRD [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:42 pm ]
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Try putting in some power service anti gel white bottle to clear up fuel
Author:  huxrules [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  maine does this
Mine has jsut started doing this- it only does this at the first or second stop of the day. I thought there was a tsb about fluid collecting in the wrong part of the tranny during the night and then the transmission acting funny in the morning. I haven't taken it to the shop yet.
Author:  dauntless [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:04 pm ]
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Thanks for the tips. I have tried different fuels to no avail. I get the sense that it is not the engine that is the problem, rather something further back in the drivetrain locking up and stopping the engine.
Author:  Goglio704 [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:55 pm ]
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Is the transmission fluid level correct? These transmissions seem to be rather temperamental about fluid level and do some funny things when even a little low.
Author:  Marlon_JBT [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:06 pm ]
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Goglio704 wrote:
Is the transmission fluid level correct? These transmissions seem to be rather temperamental about fluid level and do some funny things when even a little low.

Typical Chrysler transmission. :)
Author:  Goglio704 [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:12 pm ]
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Marlon_JBT wrote:
Goglio704 wrote:
Is the transmission fluid level correct? These transmissions seem to be rather temperamental about fluid level and do some funny things when even a little low.

Typical Chrysler transmission. :)


You got that right. Found out the hard way that my company (Dodge) truck has to have at least 1/2 a quart more than the full mark or it won't shift right. :roll:
Author:  dauntless [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:47 pm ]
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I'll have to check the fluid level. The dealership just did a flush as part of the F37 recall Friday, and has never mentioned it being low when in for service.
Author:  no-blue-screen [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD Stalling
dauntless wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with their CRD stalling? Mine stalls a couple times a month when cold, and only occassionaly in the summer. So far, it has always happened within the first few minutes of driving. It is not a gentle stall where the motor just quits, rather it bucks/surges somewhat violently for a second and comes to a sudden stop. Kind of like letting off the clutch of a manual transmission while in gear at a stop. I have had it in to the dealer a couple of times, and of course it will not do it when they have it, and they said that Chrysler told them that they had never heard of this problem before. I had really high hopes that the F37 "recall" would take care of this. I had the full recall done Friday, including the new pump, but today when I went to pull out of the garage it stalled again. I am at a loss as to what to do next. I would like to know if anyone else is having this problem so that I can at least show them that I am not the only one.


How many miles do you have on it? Is it possible you got some bad fuel that plugged up your fuel filter?
Author:  dauntless [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:06 pm ]
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I have 13k miles on it. It does not seem like a fuel filter issue because it only happens within the first minute or two of starting the vehicle; within the first or second stop as posted by someone else.
Author:  no-blue-screen [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:58 pm ]
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If the dealer can't figure it out....I guess try to plug it in at night for a couple of days. If it starts and runs fine (doesn't stall) when you plug it in, I would say something is causing the engine to quit when it is cold and the timing is advanced. Also, may very well be the glow plugs.

I seriously doubt something in the drive line is "locking up" only when the vehicle is cold and the timing is way advanced.
Author:  huxrules [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  no its with the tranny
It has happened to me three times. Two times car was at idle for awhile before I started driving. Also - when stalling commences the jeep pulls hard. Exactly like stalling a car with a manual transmission. It has to be the torque converter not unlocking. It also has only happened when it is below 40 or so degrees.
Author:  dauntless [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:04 pm ]
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huxrules. sounds like you know exactly what I am talking about.
Author:  huxrules [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  a possible solution
For some history- my t/c and front pump was replaced a month ago. Before this whole f37 mess. Once it got cold my libby started stalling on the first or second stop of the day. Today I checked the tranny fluid- the car was warm- and the dipstick was DRY! No fluid on any part of the dipstick. It took a whole bottle of atf+4 to fill it up. I don't know if it has solved my stalling problem yet- will see in the morning.

ps. the bottle of valvoline atf+4 was "specially formulated" for chrysler vehicles. It supposedly has "shudder stopper technology" so we will see about that.
Author:  bbo [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a possible solution
huxrules wrote:
ps. the bottle of valvoline atf+4 was "specially formulated" for chrysler vehicles. It supposedly has "shudder stopper technology" so we will see about that.


I think Valvoline must read the different chrysler forums ...

"Now with anti-shudder technology !!"
Author:  huxrules [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:33 am ]
Post subject:  got it wrong
double checked it - the bottle actually says

"shudder protection- for smoother performance"

and has a logo to boot

lol
Author:  Jeger [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a possible solution
bbo wrote:
huxrules wrote:
ps. the bottle of valvoline atf+4 was "specially formulated" for chrysler vehicles. It supposedly has "shudder stopper technology" so we will see about that.


I think Valvoline must read the different chrysler forums ...

"Now with anti-shudder technology !!"


NO WAY!

Take a picture, I have GOT to see this!
Author:  no-blue-screen [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:34 am ]
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Yes, please take a pic and post!
Author:  huxrules [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:43 am ]
Post subject:  picture
Don't know how to do a picture but here is a link

http://idisk.mac.com/huxrules/Public/Photo641.jpg

should work. Its valvoline atf+4 bought at advance auto parts in College Station TX. Can't tell you if it actually did anything.
Sorry for the poor picture- taken with web cam.
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