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Author: | valkraider [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | EPA finds diesels get better mileage than sticker |
Quote: "As can be seen, diesels appear to perform the best with respect to their label fuel economy, outperforming the label by 4.3%," the EPA technical support document said. Diesel was the only power source to see an increase in real-world MPG. Gasoline cars decreased by between 1.4%-1.7%, while hybrid owners saw their real-world mileage drop by over 8% compared to the current fuel economy label.
http://sev.prnewswire.com/auto/20061214/CLTH51914122006-1.html# |
Author: | KenJennings [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:58 pm ] |
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Maybe the people at Consumer Reports will be surprised by this, but I don't think very many here will find this surprising. |
Author: | Jeger [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:21 pm ] |
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I'm thinking...DUH! this is old news to anyone that owns a diesel! They also need to realize if they havnt already, that diesels dont see peak fuel mileage until at least 10K miles. |
Author: | BioJeep [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:53 pm ] |
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Quote: They also need to realize if they havnt already, that diesels dont see peak fuel mileage until at least 10K miles.
I didn't look into Consumer Report's figures but I would suspect this to be the explanation. |
Author: | Jeger [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:04 pm ] |
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BioJeep wrote: Quote: They also need to realize if they havnt already, that diesels dont see peak fuel mileage until at least 10K miles. I didn't look into Consumer Report's figures but I would suspect this to be the explanation. Maybe part of the explanation, but they reported 11 MPG I believe. I honestly think you could drive full throttle all day and still get better than that! |
Author: | BioJeep [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:25 pm ] |
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WHOA! ![]() |
Author: | no-blue-screen [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:36 pm ] |
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Jeger wrote: BioJeep wrote: Quote: They also need to realize if they havnt already, that diesels dont see peak fuel mileage until at least 10K miles. I didn't look into Consumer Report's figures but I would suspect this to be the explanation. Maybe part of the explanation, but they reported 11 MPG I believe. I honestly think you could drive full throttle all day and still get better than that! Their testing process was flawed. I read something about the way they did the testing that they weren't accounting for the unused fuel that was being drained back into the fuel tank. The lowest I have ever averaged on a tank was 21 mpg. |
Author: | oldnavy [ Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:34 pm ] |
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I emailed them and I think someone esle also did, and I asked about their testing procedure and they replied that they disconnected the hose from fuel tank and put it into a container with a measured amount of fuel. I emailed back that that was an invalid test as the diesel fuel system returns about 30% to as high as 70% of the fuel to the tank unused. They politely told me that their test was done properly and would stand by what they stated in the report. |
Author: | valkraider [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Share your mileage |
Go to fueleconomy.gov and share your mileage: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do |
Author: | Jeger [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:49 am ] |
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oldnavy wrote: I emailed them and I think someone esle also did, and I asked about their testing procedure and they replied that they disconnected the hose from fuel tank and put it into a container with a measured amount of fuel. I emailed back that that was an invalid test as the diesel fuel system returns about 30% to as high as 70% of the fuel to the tank unused. They politely told me that their test was done properly and would stand by what they stated in the report.
I had heard that before, but didnt know it had been verified. I guess it would "look bad" for them to admit one of their tests was flawed. |
Author: | no-blue-screen [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:15 am ] |
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I think it would look better if they admitted they made a mistake on the test. Retested, and put the true figures out there. It is impossible to get 11mpg with this jeep unless you punch a big hole in the fuel tank and allow fuel to leak out while you are driving down the road. |
Author: | DZL_LOU [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:33 am ] |
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no-blue-screen wrote: I think it would look better if they admitted they made a mistake on the test. Retested, and put the true figures out there. It is impossible to get 11mpg with this jeep unless you punch a big hole in the fuel tank and allow fuel to leak out while you are driving down the road.
Yeah, even a fully loaded over the road diesel semi hauler will get around 7~8 mpg. Maybe consumer reports thought we had a six cylinder CAT underneath that plastic black JEEP bonnet. |
Author: | Jeger [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:58 am ] |
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DZL_LOU wrote: no-blue-screen wrote: I think it would look better if they admitted they made a mistake on the test. Retested, and put the true figures out there. It is impossible to get 11mpg with this jeep unless you punch a big hole in the fuel tank and allow fuel to leak out while you are driving down the road. Yeah, even a fully loaded over the road diesel semi hauler will get around 7~8 mpg. Maybe consumer reports thought we had a six cylinder CAT underneath that plastic black JEEP bonnet. I could have gone for a 4 cyl CAT under the hood, that would have been awesome! Dont get me wrong this VM is a sweet little engine, But I would love to put a big CATERPILLAR sticker across the top of the windshield. That would make me happy. ![]() |
Author: | BiodieselJeep.com [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:24 pm ] |
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I remember reading CR that their test was 18-19 mpg mixed highway/city. Where did you guys get 11mpg? Can someone confirm? |
Author: | oldnavy [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:24 pm ] |
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BiodieselJeep.com wrote: I remember reading CR that their test was 18-19 mpg mixed highway/city. Where did you guys get 11mpg? Can someone confirm? Not the one CR I read, a friend showed it to me and ask me about the mileage.
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