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I am 6'6" tall.

I have long legs.

Though I am comfortable-enough, I'd really like my seat to go a little farther back and get my knees off the darn creaky plastic under the steering wheel...

My CRD has manual-adjust seats (not powered ones).

Is there any way to get about 3-6 inches more leg room by moving the seat back farther?

I'm assuming this would involve drilling new holes and filling old ones and voiding all kinds of warranties... Cost? Anybody else ever do this?

Like I told you guys, dumbest question evarr....

I have seen it done in other vehicles. I dont see why you couldnt make a custom seat mount that would move the seat further back. I would worry about the seatbelt though, you wouldnt want to go so far back that the seatbelt wouldnt work right for you. I suppose the only part of the warranty they could void would be the one for the seat mount.

I wouldnt drill new holes unless I had too. Use the factory holes and just make a custom bracket if it will work, that way you could go back stock with no evidence of what you had done.

Take out the front seat...move up the rear seat...VOILA!
Like in the Movie "Police Adcademy" when he was learning to drive in an old Honda Civic :lol:

I've done this on my Camaro and Land Cruiser - the KJ didn't need it

The seat is mounted with 4 bolts - get 4 pieces of angle iron the length of the seat mount - drill holes to mount 2 pieces of angle iron to the base, 2 pieces to the seat - and then shift the seat the amount of extra space you need and bolt the angle iron together.
Basically picture an L and an inverted L - the 2 L's bolted together.
I haven't taken any pictures so I can't post them - but basically you're building a spacer for the seat - it raises it the height of the angle iron (about 1", 1 1/4") but you can shift the seat backwards as much as you want (I've moved the LC about 3" back).

ATXKJ wrote:

Good idea but I am 6' 5" and the KJ seat could not be lifted any higher, it is too high already. BTW, what are all of us big guys doing in these KJ's anyways?? :roll:

Contact Doug Misch, Misch Products, Coffeyville, KS. Talked to him just now he is expecting the first production in a week or two. The following is a link to the TJ version. http://www.misch4x4.com/bigboy_brackets.html

Lewis Shell

Moving said seat bracket will void the EGR valve warranty. :lol:

tulsa wrote:

darn, that is PERFECT. And inexpensive, too!

Thanks!

Do you how hard this would be to install? I'm no gearhead, but I'm not afraid of a little work, either.

This is not something for a gearhead, just someone that has a small amount of common sense and knows the meaning of lefty lucy, righty tighty. If you are that unsure about you abilities to do this jib, check with local shop or even the dealer for them to install.

oldnavy wrote:

Naw, I'm pretty handy, but I always like to ask the experts ahead of time.

Besides, looking at the pic on the website, it seems like you:

1) Unbolt the seat assembly from the floor of the vehicle
2) Bolt the seat assembly onto the brackets
3) Bolt the brackets to the floor of the vehicle
4) Test Drive your new seat
5) Have a beer.

Sound about right?

Says it takes 10-15 minutes to install each, so it can't be too complex.

Pop a top for both of us SA. :wink:

Author:	Special Agent [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:03 am ]
Post subject:	New Dumbest Question Evarr...
I am 6'6" tall. I have long legs. Though I am comfortable-enough, I'd really like my seat to go a little farther back and get my knees off the darn creaky plastic under the steering wheel... My CRD has manual-adjust seats (not powered ones). Is there any way to get about 3-6 inches more leg room by moving the seat back farther? I'm assuming this would involve drilling new holes and filling old ones and voiding all kinds of warranties... Cost? Anybody else ever do this? Like I told you guys, dumbest question evarr....

Author:	Jeger [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:48 am ]
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I have seen it done in other vehicles. I dont see why you couldnt make a custom seat mount that would move the seat further back. I would worry about the seatbelt though, you wouldnt want to go so far back that the seatbelt wouldnt work right for you. I suppose the only part of the warranty they could void would be the one for the seat mount. I wouldnt drill new holes unless I had too. Use the factory holes and just make a custom bracket if it will work, that way you could go back stock with no evidence of what you had done.

Author:	T^2 [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:29 am ]
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Special Agent wrote: I am 6'6" tall. I have long legs. Though I am comfortable-enough, I'd really like my seat to go a little farther back and get my knees off the darn creaky plastic under the steering wheel... My CRD has manual-adjust seats (not powered ones). Is there any way to get about 3-6 inches more leg room by moving the seat back farther? I'm assuming this would involve drilling new holes and filling old ones and voiding all kinds of warranties... Cost? Anybody else ever do this? Like I told you guys, dumbest question evarr.... It might be easier to just cut 3 to 4 inches off of you legs....

Author:	oldnavy [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:05 am ]
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Jeger wrote: I have seen it done in other vehicles. I dont see why you couldnt make a custom seat mount that would move the seat further back. I would worry about the seatbelt though, you wouldnt want to go so far back that the seatbelt wouldnt work right for you. I suppose the only part of the warranty they could void would be the one for the seat mount. I wouldnt drill new holes unless I had too. Use the factory holes and just make a custom bracket if it will work, that way you could go back stock with no evidence of what you had done. Shortly after I bought the Jeep I looked at the possibility of doing the same thng because I am 6'5" with same problem. the seat comes out easily but I did't take the seat off the raised section that bolts to the floor. I think it could be easly done but I don't remember just how much it could be moved back by redrilling holes where seat attaches to the base mount. I seem to memeber thinking it wasn't enough to really help and that a seperate mounting rail would be needed or a new base mount made that holds the seat to the floor. I would suggest that you remove the seat & seat mount, there is just 4 bolts holding it down to the floor along with the electrical conector for seat belts to check and see for sure. I didn't actually remove the floor mount from the seat to look and measure, so there may be more room to shift the seat on the floor mount back then I thought. I just didn't want to put the effort in to it because I seldom dive the rig other then to fill it up for the wife or take to the shop and we use the Magnum for long trips because it if far roomer and much more comfortable.

Author:	DarbyWalters [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:19 am ]
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Take out the front seat...move up the rear seat...VOILA! Like in the Movie "Police Adcademy" when he was learning to drive in an old Honda Civic

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Author:	oldnavy [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:30 am ]
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DarbyWalters wrote: Take out the front seat...move up the rear seat...VOILA! Like in the Movie "Police Adcademy" when he was learning to drive in an old Honda Civic Short people and their small world!!!

Author:	tulsa [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:41 am ]
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Contact Doug Misch, Misch Products, Coffeyville, KS. Talked to him just now he is expecting the first production in a week or two. The following is a link to the TJ version. http://www.misch4x4.com/bigboy_brackets.html Lewis Shell

Author:	ATXKJ [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:46 pm ]
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I've done this on my Camaro and Land Cruiser - the KJ didn't need it The seat is mounted with 4 bolts - get 4 pieces of angle iron the length of the seat mount - drill holes to mount 2 pieces of angle iron to the base, 2 pieces to the seat - and then shift the seat the amount of extra space you need and bolt the angle iron together. Basically picture an L and an inverted L - the 2 L's bolted together. I haven't taken any pictures so I can't post them - but basically you're building a spacer for the seat - it raises it the height of the angle iron (about 1", 1 1/4") but you can shift the seat backwards as much as you want (I've moved the LC about 3" back).

Author:	Big D [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:52 pm ]
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What ever you do, try and us as much of the factory seat frame and mouting points. Last thing you want in a collision is to have the seat separate from its mounting points if an accident were to occur.

Author:	KenJennings [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:01 pm ]
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I think the Daimler-Chrysler response would be that in order to maintain the vehicle warranty the original poster will have to get a haircut and amputate his feet rather than alter the seat mount.

Author:	TDI4BY [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:37 pm ]
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ATXKJ wrote: I've done this on my Camaro and Land Cruiser - the KJ didn't need it The seat is mounted with 4 bolts - get 4 pieces of angle iron the length of the seat mount - drill holes to mount 2 pieces of angle iron to the base, 2 pieces to the seat - and then shift the seat the amount of extra space you need and bolt the angle iron together. Basically picture an L and an inverted L - the 2 L's bolted together. I haven't taken any pictures so I can't post them - but basically you're building a spacer for the seat - it raises it the height of the angle iron (about 1", 1 1/4") but you can shift the seat backwards as much as you want (I've moved the LC about 3" back). Good idea but I am 6' 5" and the KJ seat could not be lifted any higher, it is too high already. BTW, what are all of us big guys doing in these KJ's anyways??

Author:	oldnavy [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:44 pm ]
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TDI4BY wrote: ATXKJ wrote: I've done this on my Camaro and Land Cruiser - the KJ didn't need it The seat is mounted with 4 bolts - get 4 pieces of angle iron the length of the seat mount - drill holes to mount 2 pieces of angle iron to the base, 2 pieces to the seat - and then shift the seat the amount of extra space you need and bolt the angle iron together. Basically picture an L and an inverted L - the 2 L's bolted together. I haven't taken any pictures so I can't post them - but basically you're building a spacer for the seat - it raises it the height of the angle iron (about 1", 1 1/4") but you can shift the seat backwards as much as you want (I've moved the LC about 3" back). Good idea but I am 6' 5" and the KJ seat could not be lifted any higher, it is too high already. BTW, what are all of us big guys doing in these KJ's anyways?? It is my wife's ride, I seldom drive the rig other then to fill it up on ocassions. Also if raining and I need to run an errand I take her Jeep as it is always dirty.

Author:	KJMedic [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:20 pm ]
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Moving said seat bracket will void the EGR valve warranty.

Author:	Kniggit [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:48 pm ]
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Whatever you do use American made grade 8 hardware, just remember that you are putting your life on whatever you build and in a colision its the only thing keeping that seat under you where it belongs. I read in a Street Rodder a few years back about why you should not use the bolts that we all have hanging around in cans and boxes in structural locations, and always to use good american made hardware and washers. It would be a darn shame to see the loss of life because a home builder shaved a few nickles or dollars using old or foreign hardware that failed. K

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Author:	Special Agent [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:44 pm ]
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tulsa wrote: Contact Doug Misch, Misch Products, Coffeyville, KS. Talked to him just now he is expecting the first production in a week or two. The following is a link to the TJ version. http://www.misch4x4.com/bigboy_brackets.html Lewis Shell darn, that is PERFECT. And inexpensive, too! Thanks! Do you how hard this would be to install? I'm no gearhead, but I'm not afraid of a little work, either.

Author:	oldnavy [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:20 pm ]
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Special Agent wrote: tulsa wrote: Contact Doug Misch, Misch Products, Coffeyville, KS. Talked to him just now he is expecting the first production in a week or two. The following is a link to the TJ version. http://www.misch4x4.com/bigboy_brackets.html Lewis Shell darn, that is PERFECT. And inexpensive, too! Thanks! Do you how hard this would be to install? I'm no gearhead, but I'm not afraid of a little work, either. This is not something for a gearhead, just someone that has a small amount of common sense and knows the meaning of lefty lucy, righty tighty. If you are that unsure about you abilities to do this jib, check with local shop or even the dealer for them to install.

Author:	Special Agent [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:31 pm ]
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oldnavy wrote: This is not something for a gearhead, just someone that has a small amount of common sense and knows the meaning of lefty lucy, righty tighty. If you are that unsure about you abilities to do this jib, check with local shop or even the dealer for them to install. Naw, I'm pretty handy, but I always like to ask the experts ahead of time. Besides, looking at the pic on the website, it seems like you: 1) Unbolt the seat assembly from the floor of the vehicle 2) Bolt the seat assembly onto the brackets 3) Bolt the brackets to the floor of the vehicle 4) Test Drive your new seat 5) Have a beer. Sound about right? Says it takes 10-15 minutes to install each, so it can't be too complex.

Author:	oldnavy [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:35 pm ]
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Special Agent wrote: oldnavy wrote: This is not something for a gearhead, just someone that has a small amount of common sense and knows the meaning of lefty lucy, righty tighty. If you are that unsure about you abilities to do this jib, check with local shop or even the dealer for them to install. Naw, I'm pretty handy, but I always like to ask the experts ahead of time. Besides, looking at the pic on the website, it seems like you: 1) Unbolt the seat assembly from the floor of the vehicle 2) Bolt the seat assembly onto the brackets 3) Bolt the brackets to the floor of the vehicle 4) Test Drive your new seat 5) Have a beer. Sound about right? Says it takes 10-15 minutes to install each, so it can't be too complex. Pop a top for both of us SA.