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Sorry i havne't had the time yet to do my reseach but I have found a used 05 model Liberty CRD in the Oklahoma city area which is close to me and I am going to go look at it to trade in my wifes 05 Stang for.
So a few questions that Im sure have already been addressed on here but i am kinda in a rush as this bad boy may not last long. So

1) Is there anyway to pull a Jeep warranty report on this vehicle by the VIN kinda like a Ford Oasis report so i could see any and all warranty work by any dealer. This 05 model has less than 8k miles on it so i wonder if someone had issues that caused them to trade it off.

2)Is there any reason to avoid an 05 model?

3) any specific things to check when i look at/drive it?

And finally, could i get some feed back on the vehicle itself...it's here on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Lib ... enameZWDVW

Thanks a ton!! And I will check this post regularly to get feedback before I go look at this good looking liberty!

Order a CARFAX report. It is not a bullet proof search, but at itleast will give you some peace of mind and "should" show if it has been returned as a lemon. It is cheap insurane on buying a dog. I did it 2 years ago when looking for a forester for my son. It was worthwhile spending the money as the reports steered us away from a questionalble car.

Also, I just looked at the pics from your link. It is hard to tell, but there seems to be alot of tread wear for a car with only 7k miles.

Thanks guys, keep em coming....i went and drove it tonight and i liked it alot! My first CRD to test drive. Roominess was good (I am 6'-2") and the exceleration wasnt' too bad for a little diesel. I am used to my 6.0 liter PSD with a custom race tune in it so I was thinking at first the CRD felt like it had a load of bricks behind it but then i came back to reality of this being a 2.8 liter with no power tune.
I still wonder about the low miles and the dealer is getting me a factory report to see if it's been in the shop alot.
Next step is to let the wife drive it so we'll see.
Thanks again yall and keep the replys coming!

Are you close enough to the dealer to inspect the vehicle? Would be more interested in the TSB stickers under the hood and a visual inspection to see any accident repairs or flood damage.

RFCRD wrote:

Are you close enough to the dealer to inspect the vehicle? Would be more interested in the TSB stickers under the hood and a visual inspection to see any accident repairs or flood damage.

Yes, i drive by this dealer on my commute to work. I looked at it tonight and drove it. It looked clean. But TSB stickers under the hood has me puzzeled...would you expand on that please?
No visual accident repairs or flood damage to my untrained eye :roll:

I suspect a lot of lemon law vehicles are due to dealership service departments that have not been able to diagnose problems correctly. It's possible this one was a lemon law vehicle but has since been corrected by a different service department that actually has a clue. If it drives good and has no codes thrown and no MIL on, then it's probably fine.

I've had a ton of TSBs done to mine, but it's never let me down.

alljeep wrote:

What I am talking about is a "friendly buy back", a situtation where Chrysler buys the car back before the Lemon Law is put into effect. My understanding is that a friendly buy-back can result in a new clean title, whereas the title of the "Lemon Law" vehicle is so marked(I have 93 voyager with one). My 05 CRD was purchased in Arkansas and came with a clean new car title in November of 06, was built in August of 04. It was either a Corporate car or a friendly buy back, I do not know which. I talked with a dealer in KC before purchasing my Jeep and was informed that the CRD he had was a friendly buy back and had a normal title not one which had been re-issued. Because my CRD had a new title marked "used" I had to pay the standard tax to register it, not the tax based on the purchase price. It would be good to see the title and ask about it before you sign on the line.

Lewis

Author:	CHenry [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Warranty Report for used CRD??
Sorry i havne't had the time yet to do my reseach but I have found a used 05 model Liberty CRD in the Oklahoma city area which is close to me and I am going to go look at it to trade in my wifes 05 Stang for. So a few questions that Im sure have already been addressed on here but i am kinda in a rush as this bad boy may not last long. So 1) Is there anyway to pull a Jeep warranty report on this vehicle by the VIN kinda like a Ford Oasis report so i could see any and all warranty work by any dealer. This 05 model has less than 8k miles on it so i wonder if someone had issues that caused them to trade it off. 2)Is there any reason to avoid an 05 model? 3) any specific things to check when i look at/drive it? And finally, could i get some feed back on the vehicle itself...it's here on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Lib ... enameZWDVW Thanks a ton!! And I will check this post regularly to get feedback before I go look at this good looking liberty!

Author:	BVCRD [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:51 pm ]
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CHenry wrote: Sorry i havne't had the time yet to do my reseach but I have found a used 05 model Liberty CRD in the Oklahoma city area which is close to me and I am going to go look at it to trade in my wifes 05 Stang for. So a few questions that Im sure have already been addressed on here but i am kinda in a rush as this bad boy may not last long. So 1) Is there anyway to pull a Jeep warranty report on this vehicle by the VIN kinda like a Ford Oasis report so i could see any and all warranty work by any dealer. This 05 model has less than 8k miles on it so i wonder if someone had issues that caused them to trade it off. 2)Is there any reason to avoid an 05 model? 3) any specific things to check when i look at/drive it? And finally, could i get some feed back on the vehicle itself...it's here on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Lib ... enameZWDVW Thanks a ton!! And I will check this post regularly to get feedback before I go look at this good looking liberty! Good news, you have a better powertrain warranty than the 2006. Bad news, the torque convertors suck in the '05s. Good news, there is a recall on all of them. You could ask the dealer to run the VIN. If he wants to sell it, he should be willing to do that for you. It looks nice enough although I prefer the Sport model. With that low mileage, I would be cautious as to why? With the known CRDs that have had serious issues, some of the Lemon, this may be a Lemon in Jeeps clothing. You are wise to do a history check.

Author:	vtdog [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:08 pm ]
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Order a CARFAX report. It is not a bullet proof search, but at itleast will give you some peace of mind and "should" show if it has been returned as a lemon. It is cheap insurane on buying a dog. I did it 2 years ago when looking for a forester for my son. It was worthwhile spending the money as the reports steered us away from a questionalble car. Also, I just looked at the pics from your link. It is hard to tell, but there seems to be alot of tread wear for a car with only 7k miles.

Author:	BVCRD [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:07 pm ]
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vtdog wrote: Order a CARFAX report. It is not a bullet proof search, but at itleast will give you some peace of mind and "should" show if it has been returned as a lemon. It is cheap insurane on buying a dog. I did it 2 years ago when looking for a forester for my son. It was worthwhile spending the money as the reports steered us away from a questionalble car. Also, I just looked at the pics from your link. It is hard to tell, but there seems to be alot of tread wear for a car with only 7k miles. You have sharp eyes. Hard for me to tell. They are badyear St's though. Worse tire made except for the Firestone 721.

Author:	BLake [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:04 pm ]
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Several years ago I thought I just had to have a Range Rover. While shopping I noticed that they either had really low miles or 200K plus. I searched the internet and found a few sites put up by people that "owned" a Range Rover but never drove it because it was always broken in the shop waiting for parts. I'm talking in the shop months at a time. The owners of the high mileage Rovers loved them and they never broke. I point this out because unless there is a good reason, that CRD should have a lot more miles on it. My CRD has been in the shop for 2 months and a week now waiting for parts. I would be highly suspect of the one listed. See if your local dealer will run the VIN number for a service history. The Chevy dealer did this for me once on a Suburban. Carfax is a very good idea. Buy the one month deal if you plan on looking at a few cars. The carfax will tell you how many times it has been to the dealer but not sure if it will tell you how many days it has been in the shop.

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Author:	CHenry [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:27 pm ]
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Thanks guys, keep em coming....i went and drove it tonight and i liked it alot! My first CRD to test drive. Roominess was good (I am 6'-2") and the exceleration wasnt' too bad for a little diesel. I am used to my 6.0 liter PSD with a custom race tune in it so I was thinking at first the CRD felt like it had a load of bricks behind it but then i came back to reality of this being a 2.8 liter with no power tune. I still wonder about the low miles and the dealer is getting me a factory report to see if it's been in the shop alot. Next step is to let the wife drive it so we'll see. Thanks again yall and keep the replys coming!

Author:	RFCRD [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 pm ]
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CHenry wrote: Thanks guys, keep em coming....i went and drove it tonight and i liked it alot! My first CRD to test drive. Roominess was good (I am 6'-2") and the exceleration wasnt' too bad for a little diesel. I am used to my 6.0 liter PSD with a custom race tune in it so I was thinking at first the CRD felt like it had a load of bricks behind it but then i came back to reality of this being a 2.8 liter with no power tune. I still wonder about the low miles and the dealer is getting me a factory report to see if it's been in the shop alot. Next step is to let the wife drive it so we'll see. Thanks again yall and keep the replys coming! Are you close enough to the dealer to inspect the vehicle? Would be more interested in the TSB stickers under the hood and a visual inspection to see any accident repairs or flood damage.

Author:	CHenry [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:18 am ]
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RFCRD wrote: Are you close enough to the dealer to inspect the vehicle? Would be more interested in the TSB stickers under the hood and a visual inspection to see any accident repairs or flood damage. Yes, i drive by this dealer on my commute to work. I looked at it tonight and drove it. It looked clean. But TSB stickers under the hood has me puzzeled...would you expand on that please? No visual accident repairs or flood damage to my untrained eye

Author:	AZScout [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:56 am ]
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When the computers are flashed for an "update", the dealer is supposed to put a sticker under the hood, near the latch I believe. It's a good idea to check, but mine has been flashed three times and I've never recv'd a sticker, only the invoice showing that the flash was done. Good idea, but still dig deeper I think.

Author:	RFCRD [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:36 am ]
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CHenry wrote: RFCRD wrote: Are you close enough to the dealer to inspect the vehicle? Would be more interested in the TSB stickers under the hood and a visual inspection to see any accident repairs or flood damage. Yes, i drive by this dealer on my commute to work. I looked at it tonight and drove it. It looked clean. But TSB stickers under the hood has me puzzeled...would you expand on that please? No visual accident repairs or flood damage to my untrained eye This model has been through a series of TSB & some recalls to remedy some issues. You will be looking for legally required white stickers (@ 2 inches X 3 inches) placed on the underside of the hood or on the radiator core support area. Will have the latest update info on changes made like software version. Look for verbage like "18-xxx-xx" or "Fxx" or maybe the actual part number of the software along with the dates & shop where it was serviced.

Author:	CHenry [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:42 pm ]
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Thank you,I will inspect it more this weekend!

Author:	tulsa [ Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:59 am ]
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CHenry, It might be a good idea to look at the title. DC has been buying back some CRD's on a friendly basis to avoid Lemon Laws, often the result is a brand new title, which in OK will cost you more money when you deal with the tag agency. Also watch for charges to transfer the warranty. If you take the vin number to a Jeep or other Chrysler dealer you should be able to get the vehicle history. Lewis

Author:	alljeep [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:15 am ]
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I suspect a lot of lemon law vehicles are due to dealership service departments that have not been able to diagnose problems correctly. It's possible this one was a lemon law vehicle but has since been corrected by a different service department that actually has a clue. If it drives good and has no codes thrown and no MIL on, then it's probably fine. I've had a ton of TSBs done to mine, but it's never let me down.

Author:	palla [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:19 am ]
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VIN Number: 1J4GL5854 5W635143 Vehicle Description: JEEP LIBERTY LTD EDITION 4X4 SPORT UTILITY 4-DR Model Year: 2005 Recall and Customer Satisfaction Notification Information: Click on description to view document Description Type Issue Date Status TORQUE CONVERTER AND REPROGRAM PCM/TCM CUSTOMER SATISFACTION 12/01/2006 INCOMPLETE LOWER BALL JOINTS SAFETY 09/06/2006 INCOMPLETE REPROGRAM TCM FOR AFTERMARKET SCAN TOOL 08/14/2006 INCOMPLETE

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Author:	Marlon_JBT [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:58 am ]
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I'd say it was probably bought and sold and just sat for a REALLY LONG time.

Author:	tulsa [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:00 am ]
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alljeep wrote: I suspect a lot of lemon law vehicles are due to dealership service departments that have not been able to diagnose problems correctly. It's possible this one was a lemon law vehicle but has since been corrected by a different service department that actually has a clue. If it drives good and has no codes thrown and no MIL on, then it's probably fine. I've had a ton of TSBs done to mine, but it's never let me down. What I am talking about is a "friendly buy back", a situtation where Chrysler buys the car back before the Lemon Law is put into effect. My understanding is that a friendly buy-back can result in a new clean title, whereas the title of the "Lemon Law" vehicle is so marked(I have 93 voyager with one). My 05 CRD was purchased in Arkansas and came with a clean new car title in November of 06, was built in August of 04. It was either a Corporate car or a friendly buy back, I do not know which. I talked with a dealer in KC before purchasing my Jeep and was informed that the CRD he had was a friendly buy back and had a normal title not one which had been re-issued. Because my CRD had a new title marked "used" I had to pay the standard tax to register it, not the tax based on the purchase price. It would be good to see the title and ask about it before you sign on the line. Lewis

Author:	alljeep [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:08 am ]
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tulsa wrote: alljeep wrote: I suspect a lot of lemon law vehicles are due to dealership service departments that have not been able to diagnose problems correctly. It's possible this one was a lemon law vehicle but has since been corrected by a different service department that actually has a clue. If it drives good and has no codes thrown and no MIL on, then it's probably fine. I've had a ton of TSBs done to mine, but it's never let me down. What I am talking about is a "friendly buy back", a situtation where Chrysler buys the car back before the Lemon Law is put into effect. My understanding is that a friendly buy-back can result in a new clean title, whereas the title of the "Lemon Law" vehicle is so marked(I have 93 voyager with one). My 05 CRD was purchased in Arkansas and came with a clean new car title in November of 06, was built in August of 04. It was either a Corporate car or a friendly buy back, I do not know which. I talked with a dealer in KC before purchasing my Jeep and was informed that the CRD he had was a friendly buy back and had a normal title not one which had been re-issued. Because my CRD had a new title marked "used" I had to pay the standard tax to register it, not the tax based on the purchase price. It would be good to see the title and ask about it before you sign on the line. Lewis Interesting point. So, it's possible it could have a recurring problem - say something every couple thousand miles (or less) and there would not really be much record of it. I still think that finding any CRD with this low of mileage has enough remaining factory warranty to work out the bugs. BUT, the buyer should talk with local dealers and have some comfort with a service department that is willing to go the distance for repairs and has had success with other CRD repairs(probably not an easy task to find such). My CRD only has 16k on it, so maybe I'm not into the higher failure rate yet, but I have had a lot of difficulty finding a dealer to support my Jeep.

Author:	tulsa [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:21 am ]
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I am not saying that this Jeep has any problems, just to look at the title before buying. Lewis

Author:	BVCRD [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:24 am ]
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If they have done the recalls, it is probably fine. If they haven't done them, they soon will be one way or another. The engine is bulletproof! It is a sound vehicle with a7/70 powertrain warranty. Don't get any better than that unless you go H2 or 3.

Author:	longarm [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:33 pm ]
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RUN AWAY!!!!!!