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Author:  KJMedic [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  2 stroke oil
Would there be any harm in running 2 oz of 2 stroke oil in with a tankful of diesel? I know that the dodge guys so it on the CTD.
Author:  DZL_LOU [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 stroke oil
KJMedic wrote:
Would there be any harm in running 2 oz of 2 stroke oil in with a tankful of diesel? I know that the dodge guys so it on the CTD.


I guess I'd have to ask what you think the perceived benefit would be of running relatively "small" amounts of 2 stroke oil in your CRD?

In my opinion, let's say 50% of CTD users are commerical, industrial or agricultural users. These users run into a lot of unused fuels/oils in their line of work/business. So, as a matter of disposal convenience a "small" amount of oil in the diesel fuel is thought of not to harm the CTD. For a older non-EGR CTD application it may not be an issue. I'd be more concerned with the cumulative effects on your Liberty CRD.

Here's why in my opinion I would not do it on my CRD. Our CRD's are designed for ultra-low sulfur consumption with our common rail and EGR's. The cumulative effect of adding of oil into the fuel system will change your exhaust properties sulfur content, ash and carbon residue. To me, it would be playing 'Russian Roulette' with the fuel delivery system and EGR.

I'd rather just dispose of my unused/recycled oils at my local garage or quick lube joint. Additionally, some states such as California view placing oil into the diesel fuel as a violation of the hazardous waste disposal regulations.
Author:  BiodieselJeep.com [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:28 pm ]
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If you are looking to dispose of old oils, many can go into your Home Heat Oil and mix and burn propperly. That is, if you heat with oil.

One of my jobs is actually to do research on waste and virgin vegetable and animal oils for mixing and use in home heating furnaces. I have a helthy appreciation for the little buggers, they can burn anything.
Author:  KJMedic [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:48 pm ]
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No this is new oil. I read that it is done to lubricate the injectors and pump.
Author:  Cowpie1 [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:59 pm ]
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I have heard of these "remedies" many times in my 4 decades of dealing with diesels. They are all crap when tried in modern emission controlled diesels. They will cause more problem than good. I have heard of using straight 30w motor oil, ATF, and cookling oil.

The best thing, and I would say the ONLY thing, you should use if you are wanting to add lubricity to diesel is buy a good additive such as Howes, Power Service, etc and add that. It will do the job better and not increase the soot level of the exhaust and contribute to needing a new EGR any sooner.

I realize many will argue with this, but it you check with the engine manufacturers (I repeat, manufacturers, not dealers) they will side with me.
Author:  litton [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:55 pm ]
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Yep, why screw around with an unknown when you can get everything you want from a proven product? Please don't say cost.
Author:  dgeist [ Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:50 am ]
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Cowpie1 wrote:
The best thing, and I would say the ONLY thing, you should use if you are wanting to add lubricity to diesel is buy a good additive such as Howes, Power Service, etc and add that. It will do the job better and not increase the soot level of the exhaust and contribute to needing a new EGR any sooner.


I second that (commercial additives). I'm no diesel tech, but I've successfully used PowerService Diesel Fuel Treatment to de-gel my fuel tank and injection system and the engine definitely runs smoother afterwards and for the remainder of that tank. It's about 6 bucks for a bottle that treats something like 100 gallons of fuel and you can get it at WalMart (even in the South): http://www.powerservice.com/dieselfuel_supplement_cetaneboost.asp

Dan
Author:  Drewd [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:57 pm ]
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Adding such a small amount of oil won't hurt a thing and should help with lubricity. However, the best way to dramatically increase lubricity is with a splash of biodiesel. A little goes a long way.
Author:  RAF 3829 [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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Most of the guys running that in the Cummins is to keep the VP 44 injection pump lubed.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:48 pm ]
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Drewd wrote:
Adding such a small amount of oil won't hurt a thing and should help with lubricity. However, the best way to dramatically increase lubricity is with a splash of biodiesel. A little goes a long way.




Well, it would increase soot, and that is bad for the EGR. Bad for the air. ULSD already has lubing in it. I agree with the bio though.
Author:  KJbob [ Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:43 pm ]
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dgeist wrote:
Cowpie1 wrote:
The best thing, and I would say the ONLY thing, you should use if you are wanting to add lubricity to diesel is buy a good additive such as Howes, Power Service, etc and add that. It will do the job better and not increase the soot level of the exhaust and contribute to needing a new EGR any sooner.


I second that (commercial additives). I'm no diesel tech, but I've successfully used PowerService Diesel Fuel Treatment to de-gel my fuel tank and injection system and the engine definitely runs smoother afterwards and for the remainder of that tank. It's about 6 bucks for a bottle that treats something like 100 gallons of fuel and you can get it at WalMart (even in the South): http://www.powerservice.com/dieselfuel_supplement_cetaneboost.asp

Dan


I agree with this also. If you are concerned that ULSD does not contain sufficient lubricity qualities then I would opt (and do) for a good additive. I've used Howes, Powerservice and Amsoil. All are good. :)
Author:  Reg#43897 [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Synthetic 2T oil
I can't see a problem in running small dosages of synthetic two-stroke oil in a diesel engine...

John.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Synthetic 2T oil
Reg#43897 wrote:
I can't see a problem in running small dosages of synthetic two-stroke oil in a diesel engine...

John.



I thought the plan was to get this thing as clean running as possible so the EGR stuff don't come back. What did I miss?
Author:  KJbob [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Synthetic 2T oil
Reg#43897 wrote:
I can't see a problem in running small dosages of synthetic two-stroke oil in a diesel engine...

John.


Without knowing why you would want to do this, I would simply stay with the aftermarket diesel fuel additives that are available, but it's your choice.
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