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Author:  BCool [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins
Has anyone here had experience with this truck, how did they like it, with all the deals I'm thinking about it.
Author:  crdmike [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:42 pm ]
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Check out TDR

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/
Author:  BCool [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:04 pm ]
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Thanks for the link.
Author:  no-blue-screen [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins
BCool wrote:
Has anyone here had experience with this truck, how did they like it, with all the deals I'm thinking about it.


Deals on a 2006 cummins? Please share.....I have been thinking about getting one and giving the wife my CRD.
Author:  BCool [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:38 pm ]
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0% for 72 months. Priced off of invoice.
Author:  MrMopar64 [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:49 pm ]
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I have an 04.5 2500 with the 325hp 5.9L and the NV5600 6-spd, quad cab long bed- basically the same truck (same engine). I wouldn't trade it for the world. I've been getting about 22-25mpg on the highway cruising depending on weather, and I have yet to find anything that it won't tow either. If you like it, I say go for it.
Author:  BCool [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:52 pm ]
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You know on the mileage I've gotten very mixed reviews, it makes me feel good that you say that is what your getting, some guys on that TDR I was just reading are reporting 13-17 on the 06, I'm looking at an Auto, so I probably will get a little less. Any problems to watch out for that you know of? What are you getting around town for mileage?
Author:  MrMopar64 [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:36 pm ]
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Mine is a 2wd w/ 3.73 gears, and I know that the 2wd vs. 4wd mileage is considerably different. Around town the mileage is about 18-19 provided I drive sanely. Mine has almost 119k on it and the only thing it's had has been tires and shocks (and regular maintenance) - I've had no real problems thus far, and it's spent most of its life towing.
Author:  spencevans [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:00 am ]
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I am a member of TDR. I have been thinking about trading my CRD for a new (2006) Cummins 2500, 4x4, quadcab with a 6 speed but then wisdom hit me upside the head in the form of my wifes hand. It looks like I will drive my CRD into the ground and it won't run anymore. At the rate this this breaks that will probably be next week.
Author:  modelaford [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:45 pm ]
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spencevans wrote:
I am a member of TDR. I have been thinking about trading my CRD for a new (2006) Cummins 2500, 4x4, quadcab with a 6 speed but then wisdom hit me upside the head in the form of my wifes hand. It looks like I will drive my CRD into the ground and it won't run anymore. At the rate this this breaks that will probably be next week.


I DID trade my 06 CRD for an 06 2500 Cummins, quad cab, short bed, 2wd, auto. No question about it, best vehicle I've ever owned. Inside the truck, it is quieter and smoother then the CRD ever was. I average right around 19.2 MPG with about 20% highway driving. On the open road she usually returns about 23mpg, and I've only got 6200 miles on the odometer. About the only bad thing I can say about it is that it is harder to park then the CRD :-). If you can get a good deal on an 06, GO FOR IT.

Paul
Author:  BCool [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:33 pm ]
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yeah, I hear you, I've been getting smacked by my wife everytime I bring it up. Thanks for the reply's I don't think I can convince her that its a good deal, they are just expensive trucks. I guess I'll wait for the 07's, then with the 6.7 our the 5.9's might go for cheap.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:10 am ]
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I have an ‘06 Cummins, 4 speed automatic, 3.73 rear, Quad Cab, 4x4. After modifications I am now getting 25-26 mpg running 60 mph and 23-24 running 70 mph. All driving is mostly in hilly terrain. With a few more planned modifications, I am hoping to average 27 mpg. I traded my wifes ‘05 CRD for an ‘07 gasser Liberty. I can assure you, the Cummins is an awesome engine that will go a million miles. The CRD is a poorly designed application and in no way should reflect or be compared to a Cummins application for the Dodge. Call Jeep and ask what an injector will cost you for the CRD. You will be shocked. I would hate to have the CRD for a long term vehicle as the odds are not in your favor. You want a real diesel? Drive a Cummins.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:11 am ]
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I have an ‘06 Cummins, 4 speed automatic, 3.73 rear, Quad Cab, 4x4. After modifications I am now getting 25-26 mpg running 60 mph and 23-24 running 70 mph. All driving is mostly in hilly terrain. With a few more planned modifications, I am hoping to average 27 mpg. I traded my wifes ‘05 CRD for an ‘07 gasser Liberty. I can assure you, the Cummins is an awesome engine that will go a million miles. The CRD is a poorly designed application and in no way should reflect or be compared to a Cummins application for the Dodge. Call Jeep and ask what an injector will cost you for the CRD. You will be shocked. I would hate to have the CRD for a long term vehicle as the odds are not in your favor. You want a real diesel? Drive a Cummins.
Author:  midwest [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:23 pm ]
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dieselenthusiast wrote:
I have an ‘06 Cummins, 4 speed automatic, 3.73 rear, Quad Cab, 4x4. After modifications I am now getting 25-26 mpg running 60 mph and 23-24 running 70 mph. All driving is mostly in hilly terrain. With a few more planned modifications, I am hoping to average 27 mpg. I traded my wifes ‘05 CRD for an ‘07 gasser Liberty. I can assure you, the Cummins is an awesome engine that will go a million miles. The CRD is a poorly designed application and in no way should reflect or be compared to a Cummins application for the Dodge. Call Jeep and ask what an injector will cost you for the CRD. You will be shocked. I would hate to have the CRD for a long term vehicle as the odds are not in your favor. You want a real diesel? Drive a Cummins.



Wait for the 07 Cummins with all the EPA add-ons, and then come back and tell us all about a "poorly designed application." The Cummins is a great engine, but it is still in a Dodge truck. I'd have to see 24 mpg at 70 mph in a heavy-duty 4x4 to believe it.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:10 pm ]
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midwest wrote:
dieselenthusiast wrote:
I have an ‘06 Cummins, 4 speed automatic, 3.73 rear, Quad Cab, 4x4. After modifications I am now getting 25-26 mpg running 60 mph and 23-24 running 70 mph. All driving is mostly in hilly terrain. With a few more planned modifications, I am hoping to average 27 mpg. I traded my wifes ‘05 CRD for an ‘07 gasser Liberty. I can assure you, the Cummins is an awesome engine that will go a million miles. The CRD is a poorly designed application and in no way should reflect or be compared to a Cummins application for the Dodge. Call Jeep and ask what an injector will cost you for the CRD. You will be shocked. I would hate to have the CRD for a long term vehicle as the odds are not in your favor. You want a real diesel? Drive a Cummins.



Wait for the 07 Cummins with all the EPA add-ons, and then come back and tell us all about a "poorly designed application." The Cummins is a great engine, but it is still in a Dodge truck. I'd have to see 24 mpg at 70 mph in a heavy-duty 4x4 to believe it.


Actually you might be surprised. Dodge and Cummins teamed up over two years ago to meet and exceed the new emission requirements while combining Bio-Diesel technology into their game plan. Thousands upon thousands of miles of severe road testing was established before production ever began. So today, as Cummins continues their 100,000 mile warranty, is releasing the final product which is now available for the all new ‘07 emissions. Unlike Jeep who struggled to meet the ‘05 diesel emissions and had to rework their design to comply for last minute production and had no real time to test the vehicle ended up with a mess. Cummins said the new ULSD is actually a benefit for the diesel industry and through much quantitative and qualitative data have shown that the newer engine is going to be their most efficient engine built. But to keep up with the competition, they are testing a V6 and V8 Cummins for future Dodge vehicles including the Dakota, Durango, ½ ton, ¾ ton, and 1 ton Ram trucks. You are right, the old Cummins would outlast the Dodge Truck, but now the rules have changed. The third generation Dodges are built as tough as Ford and Chevy, the suspension is excellent, and the sells continue to increase in leaps and bounds every year. You see more and more Ford Powerstroke guys making the switch to Dodge Cummins. They must be doing something right.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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midwest wrote:
I'd have to see 24 mpg at 70 mph in a heavy-duty 4x4 to believe it.


Well, I don’t know how to prove the mileage to you unless you were here for the ride and had your calculator in hand to figure it yourself. But I can assure you, it is beyond reasonable, provable, probable, and applicable. I have done literally hours and hours of research and have met others who are receiving the same results. I do not know anyone who is running my exact setup, but I can show you some of my upgrades and link you to the sources. I think you will be amazed to read and research the material I will be posting.

Let’s start by replacing the factory muffler with an aeroturbine. A true muffler with real technology. Most everybody report a 1.5 - 2.5 mpg increase depending on transmission, rear-end, driving conditions, and naturally the driver. NOTE: Keep the Catalytic Converter, the computer seems to allow over fueling if you take it off. Keep the factory 4” exhaust, it is already mandrel bent and designed very well. http://rightond.com/

The next important factor is more cool air. The PSM for the Cummins outperforms aftermarket shielded boxes and delivers all the air that the factory motor can digest. At this point the most restricted factor is the air filter. http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/cool_power

As mentioned above, replace the factory air filter with an efficient air filter. Amsoil is 98% efficient at 15 micron. This, in my opinion, is the best on the market. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eaa.aspx

Now that we have a better air inlet and a better flowing filter, we now need to get the cool air to the engine. This is many times overlooked, yet essential to retain the cool air which delivers optimum performance resulting in more power and better fuel economy. This is where the COOL HOSE comes into play. http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/air1

All the necessary Cool air is there, but lets make it even more efficient with a Turbo Air Guide (TAG. III) The TAG will send more air flow to the compressor wheel in the turbo. http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/tag

Okay, now we need more power without jeopardizing more fuel. Here is the best that I have found.

10 % Fuel Savings = 30 Cents A Gallon.
- Equates Up to 4 MPG.
110 Extra Horses !
- Better in Traffic Response Time.
220 ft. lbs. of Torque !
- Lets You Move Loads Safer.
Low Exhaust Gas Temps.
- Cooler Engine / Longer Engine Life.

Or
15 % Fuel Savings = 50 Cents A Gallon.
- Equates Up to 5 MPG.
85 Extra Horses !
- Better in Traffic Response Time.
160 ft. lbs. of Torque !
- Lets You Move Loads Safer.
Low Exhaust Gas Temps.
- Cooler Engine / Longer Engine Life.

http://www.morepowerlessfuel.com/

Keeping the transmission, engine, and gears cool also helps fuel economy. I run Amsoil Series 3000 5W-30 in my 12 Quart capacity Cummins. Amsoil ATF in the Power Steering, Trany, and Transfer case. And Amsoil Severe Lube in the front and rear differentials. http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/hdd.aspx

Sorry for taking so much space, but this is valuable info which also applies to the CRD. My point is: 24 mpg at 70 mph with a 4x4 Cummins is not only possible, but there are guys who are getting 26 mpg running empty with a 4x4 1 ton dually. Educating yourself, seeking the right knowledge, and avoid taking all advertising as gospel is a good start. I’m still researching shift kits and Torque Converter upgrades which will increase fuel economy as well.
Author:  Tinman [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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I have a 06 Cummins and it is a great truck. My expectations of a vehicle are now very high with the mods I did to the 01, so the 06 is a work in progress. The 3rd generations are so much more refined, quiet, smooth and just better than the 2nd generations. I'd avoid all the 6.7 emissions engines if you are able. I bought the 06 for that very reason. Yes the new stuff works, but it just a more complicated piece of engineering and more to maintain, pay for, and go wrong. Something we'll all have to put up with in the years to come.

As for those mileage claims, I just can't beleive it. I haven't seen anyone on the TDR able to get that kind of mileage with modern diesel trucks. (Older trucks, maybe). Oh believe me, I'd like to believe it. My 06 got about 20ish on the highway stock, but as I write I'm getting more appropriate tires (315s) put on and I put on a good suspension this past weekend. I expect my milage to drop. The mods mentioned above is good advice for any engine and I have done most of them. (For the Cummins application, you didn't mention a performance cam and manual locking hubs. Both give significant improvements also.) Stock 2wd trucks with nothing on it can probably do well over 20 regularly, but my truck will be lucky to get 20 on the highway. I think the CRD could get much better milage too. Advance the timing, shut off the EGR and open of the exhaust and intake and it might be possible to see 35+ on the highway.
Author:  gsbrockman [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:20 pm ]
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I'm on my 3rd CTD. They just keep getting better & better. I'm in the process of selling the '03 and ordering a new 2007.5 RAM 3500 SRW w/350-650 and six speed automatic.

Greg

1998 RAM 2500 12V
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2000 RAM 2500 Quad Cab 24V
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2003 RAM 2500 HPCR 24V, affectionately known as Casper.
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Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:05 pm ]
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Tinman wrote:
As for those mileage claims, I just can't beleive it. I haven't seen anyone on the TDR able to get that kind of mileage with modern diesel trucks. (Older trucks, maybe). Oh believe me, I'd like to believe it. My 06 got about 20ish on the highway stock, but as I write I'm getting more appropriate tires (315s) put on and I put on a good suspension this past weekend. I expect my milage to drop. The mods mentioned above is good advice for any engine and I have done most of them. (For the Cummins application, you didn't mention a performance cam and manual locking hubs. Both give significant improvements also.) Stock 2wd trucks with nothing on it can probably do well over 20 regularly, but my truck will be lucky to get 20 on the highway. I think the CRD could get much better milage too. Advance the timing, shut off the EGR and open of the exhaust and intake and it might be possible to see 35+ on the highway.


You’re right, I didn’t mention a performance CAM, mostly because I have not installed one. My list was based upon the upgrades that I have installed which has achieved the mileage gains that I have recorded. According to PDR Diesel Performance I will see an additional 1.5 mpg when installing Piers CAM. 8) I also did not mention that I am running a cetane fuel additive and a diesel fuel additive concentrate which increases fuel economy. :wink: Every added upgrade that I have listed plays and essential part in my mileage gains. I also have a 3.73 rear end and a 4 speed automatic. The dealer told me that the automatics seem to be receiving better mileage over the standards which surprised me. Then later I read that the 4 speed Automatics have more torque than the standards. One thing to remember is that I am not running a CHIP. CHIPS are an outdated technology and use more fuel to gain power. The WORKHORSE on the other hand is a software program (micro-computer) that increases the combustion efficiency by improving atomization of the injected fuel. :D You say that you have done most of these upgrades. But in all actuality, you have only installed something similar to my upgrades. :wink: I can assure you, a CHIP is not the same as the WORKHORSE. The PSM air intake is nothing like other aftermarket air intakes. An Aeroturbine is nothing like a Magnaflow or other mufflers. I’ve done the homework, this is why I can actually enjoy 24 mpg (real life testing) running 70 mpg. Otherwise, I wouldn’t spend the money on upgrades if there wasn’t any true efficient reason to do so. I will keep you updated if I do add a CAM in the near future. Thanks for bringing it up! Hopefully y’all can take some of this information and apply it to your CRD. I agree with TINMAN, you guys could see some increased mileage gains on your CRD by installing the correct upgrades!
Author:  bigp38 [ Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:29 pm ]
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i just bought an 07 with a 5.9 3500 i only get about 14 mpg but its a great truck
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