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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | YANLO - Yet Another New Liberty Owner! |
Hello Everyone, Thought I'd join in! We picked this one up last month. It had just under 30k miles at purchase. They did the ball-joint and transmission service bulletins (F37?), BTW. Here is a picture of Mom in the Liberty: 
Love it so far! Mark -- 2005 Liberty CRD 2004.5 Cummins 5.9L TD, NV5600 6-speed in a '93 GMC Suburban Powered by WVO blends |
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| Author: | BiodieselJeep.com [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:45 pm ] |
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Could you tell more about the WVO blends you use on the CRD? How fine do you filter? Have you modded the Libby with in-line heaters or heated fuel filters? How cold is it there in WA? |
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| Author: | Reflex [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:24 am ] |
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Washington is a temperate rainforest(at least the western half) so we just don't get that cold. A couple of weeks in the 20's and 30's is typical during the winter, but beyond that it really isn't very cold, I never had any problem starting mine since I bought it, and I have yet to even test the engine block heater. |
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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:18 am ] |
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Reflex is right - it's fairly temperate here in what is basically "Portland Oregon". The cold spell (15-19F) was pretty unusual, mid-30s & up is more normal. One the the folks I correspond with (cj, on the TDR Forum) has two dodge diesel pickups (04, 05) and lives in much colder climes (Montana). He's running a similar blend, and did Ok for the most part but finally put heated systems in. I think the source was coolant, to keep the oil warm in-tank and up to the engine. For filtering, after letting it settle a few weeks, I pour the still-liquid oil into a drum and blend. When I'm ready, I've a portable fuel pump (local farm hardware store item) with a 5-micron whole house water filter (string spun element) followed by a cannister diesel filter. Things get filtered on the way into the tank. cj has a much more elaborate setup; I think he circulates it for quite a while to get a much cleaner product. I talked to a fellow today who owns a burger joint - he has a mercedes diesel, and filters his through an oil filter that looks like an oversized coffee filter (for brewing). Gets them at a local wholesale supply store. Says he pours it through while hot and that's it. Seems a bit *underdone* to me, but he says the car's filter lasts quite a while. No mods on the truck or the jeep. Stock filters, etc. The filtering I'm doing seems sufficient that I'm getting about the same mileage out of them as normal change intervals. I've been running the Cummins on it for a year (in June), but only one tank so far on the Libby. I'm watching closely, but it seems happy enough on 50% blend (balance #2). Mark -- BiodieselJeep.com wrote: Could you tell more about the WVO blends you use on the CRD? How fine do you filter? Have you modded the Libby with in-line heaters or heated fuel filters?
How cold is it there in WA? |
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| Author: | BiodieselJeep.com [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:17 pm ] |
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I'm interested to see how it works out. I'm the King of cheapy fuels, but I also am the queen of don't-hurt-my-precious-baby! By the way, tell your friend who filters his oil while hot that he is kinda making life harder on himself. The "thicker" or "lardy-like" oil tends fto have water integrated into the long-chain molecules that makes a gel. Cold filtering tends to catch a lot of that. Heating it "melts" the lardy stuff and lets it through. By cold- filtering out that gel, you help keep out water, raise the "cloud point", and keep out the bugabo oils (harder-to-burn). Cold filtering takes longer, but saves you a lot later in final filtering. |
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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:36 am ] |
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I think he's discovered that you are right, but he does have the advantage of it being his shop - so he controls the quality of the oil pretty well. Also, he keeps spare filters and has gotten pretty good at swapping them out from what I can gather! Me - I don't like the cold-weather swaps on the way to work, etc, etc... Mark - BiodieselJeep.com wrote: I'm interested to see how it works out. I'm the King of cheapy fuels, but I also am the queen of don't-hurt-my-precious-baby!
By the way, tell your friend who filters his oil while hot that he is kinda making life harder on himself. The "thicker" or "lardy-like" oil tends fto have water integrated into the long-chain molecules that makes a gel. Cold filtering tends to catch a lot of that. Heating it "melts" the lardy stuff and lets it through. By cold- filtering out that gel, you help keep out water, raise the "cloud point", and keep out the bugabo oils (harder-to-burn). Cold filtering takes longer, but saves you a lot later in final filtering. |
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| Author: | spencevans [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:41 am ] |
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Can we some picks of that killer burb you've descibed in your signature? |
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| Author: | offroadsubaru [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:07 am ] |
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Welcome aboard! I believe that member & CRD owner Spoonplugger is located in Camas, WA (pretty much your neck of the woods). |
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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:20 pm ] |
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I've uploaded some from TDR, you can find them on our webshots album here: 
Mark - spencevans wrote: Can we some picks of that killer burb you've descibed in your signature?
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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: YANLO - Yet Another New Liberty Owner! |
msilbernagel wrote: Hello Everyone,
Thought I'd join in! We picked this one up last month. It had just under 30k miles at purchase. They did the ball-joint and transmission service bulletins (F37?), BTW. Here is a picture of Mom in the Liberty: Love it so far! Mark -- 2005 Liberty CRD 2004.5 Cummins 5.9L TD, NV5600 6-speed in a '93 GMC Suburban Powered by WVO blends Mind telling us what you paid? |
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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: YANLO - Yet Another New Liberty Owner! |
We traded a 2005 Subaru Legacy (turbo, paid for) with 57k/miles, for the 2005 CRD with 29.8k/miles. Because of the trade, it's not as easy to tell... you know the back and forth games they do. The difference we settled on was $6k licensed and out the door. When we got there they were asking for just under $24k for the Liberty. Sir Sam wrote: Mind telling us what you paid?
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| Author: | onthehunt [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:16 pm ] |
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That sounds expensive!! Hope the crd treats you well. |
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| Author: | msilbernagel [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:51 pm ] |
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I don't think it's in bargain territory - I'd missed a 2005 with 53k the day before, at a dealer, asking $14. It got sold between my call and Sat AM when I drove to check it out. What I did pay was decent for the 3-4 other dealers I checked out in the area, so while I was a little bummed about missing the first one I don't feel too bad about what I ended up with. onthehunt wrote: That sounds expensive!! Hope the crd treats you well.
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| Author: | chadhargis [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:17 pm ] |
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Anything diesel around here gets sucked up in a hurry. I was shopping for any VW TDI about a year ago and even 2002 model Jettas with 80k+ miles on them were selling for $16,000 or more. I found an '04 5 speed Jetta TDI with 19k miles for $19,300 and was going to pull the trigger on it. I test drove it and liked it. Came back the next day to buy and it was sold. The CRD I bought is a 2005 with 9600 miles on it. I paid $19,100. Seems expensive, but like I said, diesels go fast around here. Even though it's nearly $3.00 a gallon. Cheapest I've found was B20 for $2.79. A station down the road has #2 diesel for $2.99! All the CRDs within 50 miles of me were listed for over $20,000 except a few higher mileage ones. |
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| Author: | spencevans [ Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:24 am ] |
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It is good to see other TDR members on the site. I have been a member of TDR for about a year. They have a great site. |
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