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Author:  William Hoover [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Did I get a good price?
Dear CRD Friends,

I just bought my 2005 Sport CRD for $22,363. Supposedly with employee pricing and Chrysler financing's $1,000 cash rebate. Plus I had the dealership give me a trailer tow package, hitch, ball and seven pin connector. It also has the 22C customer preferred package. Total window price was $25,730.

Are people bujying for less or did I really get a good deal, as my salesman said?

PS: I'm a paraplegic and paid no taxes because I needed to install hand controls. The Jeep Automobility Program also paid $750 for my hand control installation. One small benefit of being a wheelchair Jockey.
Author:  Flying J [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:08 pm ]
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Sounds like you did pretty good. Factor in the 7/70 warranty that won't be standard on the 2006's and I think you find it would be hard to ever beat that price you paid for a new diesel jeep.

Welcome to the CRD family.

-Vic
Author:  auggy [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:40 pm ]
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We paid close to that for my 05' renegade ( gas ) .. so I'm guessing you did pretty well for yourself
Author:  William Hoover [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:02 am ]
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Thanks for the confidence. You know how it is when you bring a new vehicle home. The next day your worry and wonder if you could have gotten a better deal.
Author:  n3qik [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:54 pm ]
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William Hoover wrote:
Thanks for the confidence. You know how it is when you bring a new vehicle home. The next day your worry and wonder if you could have gotten a better deal.


Heck, I am doing that 8 months later, paid MSRP, now they are giving them away. :x :x

The only good point was 48 month 0% intrest, put that money into a CD for 4 years.
Author:  TdiDave [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:45 pm ]
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What is employee price ? Is it less that dealer invoice ?
Author:  Guest [ Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:31 pm ]
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No. Many industry employee's have complained for years that "Joe Blow" can walk in off the street and haggle a deal for less than employee pricing.
Author:  William Hoover [ Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:54 pm ]
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In my case employee pricing was $3,000 off the invoice cost of the car with no haggling. Then I got $1,000 cash back for letting Chrysler finance.

Scoob
Author:  crdawg [ Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  got the same deal on mine
got the same deal on mine,crd sport,employee pricing about 3 grand and 1000 for financing with chysler,end up financing $22,300,chris
Author:  William Hoover [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:52 pm ]
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Way to go you diesel dog! CRDdawg and I have gotten our money's worth. I love having a diesel Jeep as my first 4WD vehicle.

Groovy Hoovy
Author:  spoonplugger1 [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:08 am ]
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You did good.
Author:  Oberkanone [ Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  $19,999
I see that Carmax Orlando and Atlanta have 05 CRD's marked down to under $20K. Wow! Great price for a CRD.
Author:  Drewd [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:29 am ]
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21,434 for 2006 CRD w/ 22c, tow package and slushmats. This price included dealer prep/doc fees but not sales tax.
Author:  oldnavy [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:31 am ]
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Sure sounds like they gave you a good deal. :D

Diesel on dude. 8)
Author:  Drewd [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:21 pm ]
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oldnavy wrote:
Sure sounds like they gave you a good deal. :D

Diesel on dude. 8)


I worked hard for the deal and wished that they gave it to me. The verbal negotiations for price took me 4 weeks with multiple dealer/multiple visits and numerous "walk aways". I'm surprised I didn't get thrown out like I have before with other dealers. I used every angle possible, showing up at the Jeep dealer during a Nissan Xterra test drive, asking them to beat internet pricing, etc..etc.. The dealer knew that I was willing to fly 1000 miles to another dealer to save 200 bucks and not give them the credit for the sale. In fact, I already priced out a ticket for 79 dollars (denver to Milwaukee) on a budget airline to buy a CRD and the local dealer knew I would pull that trigger. I hate my local dealers that much because their prices are typically overinflated with high pressure sales tactics for additional profit items such as warranty, service plans etc... I wish I did fly out because I love roadtrips and the wife and I could have made a nice mini vacation out of it-a good excuse to get some time off....
Author:  dog_party [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:43 pm ]
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Drewd wrote:
The verbal negotiations for price took me 4 weeks with multiple dealer/multiple visits and numerous "walk aways"


That's awesome! That's the same way I got a great deal on mine. Kept dealing with them and talking to them...multiple walkaways, phone calls, emails, dealing with other dealers. Finally they moved just to move it off their lot. It had been sitting there for a while and no one was even test driving it.

But it is a shame...that would have made a nice little mini vacatin. Oh well...but another one! :D
Author:  oldnavy [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:48 pm ]
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I have always heard jokes about the car salesmen, and I have seen a few buyers who would lie about or hide a problem with the car they are trading in to dealer. But never talked with a crazy person who will give themselves uscers and spend so much of there time & money to save a dollar or two, I guess that proves for every action there is...... :shock:
Author:  Drewd [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:07 pm ]
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Ulcers? Nope, not one bit. I actually enjoy the negotiation process...in fact I was a warranted government contracting officer for several years while I was in the military.

A couple of dollars? That's was exactly the dealer's argument when I walked out the last time over a 200 dollar difference between what I was willing to pay and what he was willing to sell the vehicle for. Dealer said that 200 dollars was pennies extra a month if the vehicle was to be financed. I replied that if it was such a little amount and only "pennies a month", that his dealership then should have no problem absorbing the difference.

I don't know about you, but I consider 200 dollars a significant amount of money. I consider it 3 weeks of groceries, 6 tanks of fuel for my TDI, a months worth of eating out every weekend at a nicer restaurant etc.. 5-6 hours of actual time spent to garner this savings is not a waste of time as far as I am concerned. I've never paid more than invoice for a new vehicle and I prefer to dig into the dealer's holdback a bit to get a lower price.

When I bought my 04 VW TDI, I walked out because the dealer tacked on a 29 dollar fee for the temp plate that I felt should have been included in their original quote. That 29 bucks bought me enough 505.01 oil for my first oil change.

Another nice story:

In 1992 it took me multiple visits to the local Mazda dealer to buy a 1991 Mazda RX7 convertible. The car was only 1 year old and when new, cost about 30,000 dollars. I started my "negotiations" at $12,000 and got asked to leave. I paid the dealer a visit every 2 weeks and each time upped my offer by a small amount and each time I was esocrted out of the dealership because my offer was insulting. Five months later, I purchased the convertible for 14,500 dollars from the same dealer. The vehicle's KBB trade in value was $19,000at my time of purchase. The vehicle is still in our family.

You folks should see me when I sell a vehicle. I always price my vehicles at a reasonable price (usually well below retail). My vehicles are always in excellent shape and never need any work done on them. I sold my wife's Ford 2 weeks ago and that was an interesting experience for the buyer. When he offered 100 dollars less than my selling price, I then counteroffered by raising my price by an equal amount. He got the hint real quick and didn't make the mistake twice and yes, I did get the higher price.

It always helps not to be in a situation to have to sell or buy a vehicle. Owning 3 cars is an advantage.
Author:  oldnavy [ Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:09 pm ]
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Well I accomplish the same things you do in less time so I end up with what I want sooner because I am a excellent negotiator. I have sold many, many vehicles over the years, never got less then I wanted and most of the time more then I wanted do to my better negotiator abilities then the person I was dealing with at the time. :wink:

As far as US Government contracts, I saw the results of those contracts quite often in my 25 plus years of military service. So I am again unimpressed. :wink:

Remember the old saying:
Quote:
Never BS a BS'er


All that said, if your are happy with your deal, I am happy for you also. :D
Author:  Drewd [ Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:51 am ]
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I think its great that you have great negotiation skills and can knock out a deal in one visit.

As for my abilities in a previous career, I'm proud of my accomplishments and I think it is inappropriate to make such broad statements. The main problem with government contracting is not the people soliciting, writing, and awarding the contracts. Its the ridiculous laws and regulations passed by Congress that we must follow. For example, I was forced on many of my contracts to only solicit minority owned businesses which took advantage of this rule/law with significantly higher prices for products than if I obtained them with an open soliction to all businesses. Even when the solicitation was open, I had to give the disadvantaged businsses the contract award as long as their price was no higher than 10% of the lowest bidder. I could go on with hundreds of examples where Congress forces us to reward their constituents at the expense of taxpayers.

Yes, 100 dollar hammers and 500 dollar toilet seats did occur. Do you know why? Because that darn toilet seat had to withstand 10Gs or forces, not break at -40 deg F and work as well at 120 deg F. The government even had a military spec (MILSPEC) that dicated how many chocolate chips had to be in chocolate chip cookies for purchase by military dining facilities. We weren't, for the longest time, allowed to buy commercial off the shelf products. That has now changed and we are saving the taxpayers a lot of money as a result. No entity is perfect and I agree there is always room for improvement.
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