To my knowledge the valves are not any different than what came from the factory. But so far we have not seen or read of any reports of a failed/broken exhaust valve after replacing them with the newer ones.
We don't know for sure exactly what causes the exhaust valve failures or when exactly it will happen. Lots of speculation including it was a simply a bad batch of valves purchased by VM Motori or the EGR system dumping all that soot through the combustion chamber is sandblasting the exhaust valve stems causing metal exfoliation from the stem.
High EGTs could be causing the metal in the valve stems to crystalize and make them become brittle or fatigued and / or elongated and cause failure after being exposed to so many cycles of operation.
What we have learned is; the valves fail in the critical area where the valve stem is connected to the valve's mushroom head. This is a clean break and usually happens when the engine gets somewhere in the neighborhood of the 200k mark. But on the other hand, some owners have reported going well over 200k with no reported failures. So there is no consistency which makes it even harder to predict when a valve failure will occur.
Some of the failed valves have been tested by a metallurgist and it was found the stem simply separated from the head. Not due to stress cracking according to the report.
Bottom line, the "ROOT" cause is still up for debate or conjecture.
Link to:> Full Metallurgist Test ReportQuote:
Conclusion from metallurgist tests:
High cycle fatigue was concluded to be a possible mechanism of failure. A future inspection of the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) equipment may provide further evidence for the cause of this shortened valve life.
One thing for sure; if you have to pull your head for any reason, it's some mighty cheap insurance to replace the exhaust valves verses suffering a catastrophic engine failure due to a broken exhaust valve.
Some broken valves have not only destroyed the head and piston, but destroyed the entire engine making it totally unusable. A big piece of junk!
If you want to read through the entire thread on valve failure, it is here, kinda long but lots of information.
Valve failure research thread - We need your data! - Lost JeepsAn excerpt from the earlier post link above posted back in 2018:
Quote:
Valves usually break due to age, fatigue1, and a combination of environmental2 conditions to which they are exposed. Exhaust valves are repeatedly loaded and unloaded as they open and close, they can fatigue earlier than normal if the environmental conditions to which they are exposed to are severe enough. These conditions can be a combination of temperature, stress and a corrosive environment. If any of these conditions are excessive, the valve will break its weakest point.
(1) In materials science, fatigue is the weakening of a material caused by repeatedly applied loads. It is the progressive and localized structural damage that occurs when a material is subjected to cyclic loading. The nominal maximum stress values that cause such damage may be much less than the strength of the material typically quoted as the ultimate tensile stress limit, or the yield stress limit.
(2) Deposits formed on an exhaust valve can be due to the reaction of fuel-borne or airborne contaminants and lubricating oil created during the combustion process as well as the reaction of combustion products with valve materials themselves (chemical). Build-up of deposits on the valve tends to have an insulating effect that can limit critical valve metal cooling (heat transfer) and can make the valve run much hotter than normal which can lead to hot corrosion or exfoliation of the valve stem material.
We know from experience by many on this forum who have suffered timing belt failures just how tough the valves themselves are as many have made severe contact with the top of a piston hitting it hard enough to break or crack rocker arms without sustaining any valve failures in the process. With this history, I believe it rules out valve failure simply caused by contact?
So this leaves failure by some other means or process. Manufacturing defects have been discussed but not entirely ruled out. I think valve stem cracking was ruled out as well in some of the past tests reported? Stated failures are clean breaks between the valve stem and valve mushroom head?
I still believe that the high soot loading these exhaust valves are exposed to from the EGR system may be a contributing factor in their failure, be it chemical as described above or mechanical from abrasives created from the soot and combustion process and possible exfoliation of the valve stem material, or a combination of both.
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