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Check out http://dieseltoyz.com/Home.html they do custom toyota diesel conversions and have started testing the 2.8L CRD VM motor for swaps too.

I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right?

LocoCRD wrote:

I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right?

Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow.

UFO wrote:

LocoCRD wrote:

I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right?

Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow.

I doubt we will see that, none of the stand alone petrol solutions can be easily adapted for diesel use, and I doubt they will want to invest the $$ into developing one on their own.

They might be able to adapt the motec or alike.

but really, how many of you want to spend $2500 just for a stand alone ECU?

In reality all this means is more competition for me driving up prices.

For as common cheap and readily availble diesel toyota, nissan, etc engines are in Japan I dont see why they want to focus on a few US engines, personally I would use a toyota engine in a toyota that was designed to be there and has support from overseas vendors.

Used 2.8 VM from a US junkyard is likely quite a bit cheaper than a new Toyota crate motor shipped over from Japan.

Threeweight wrote:

Used 2.8 VM from a US junkyard is likely quite a bit cheaper than a new Toyota crate motor shipped over from Japan.

Maybe. But I was researching a 2LT-II or a 1KZ to swap into my Toyota PU, and half-cuts were pretty reasonable at $3K or so; that delivers all parts needed, including ECM, harness, clutch, flywheel, and transmission. I agree, a CRD swap into a Toyota is not going to be cheap or easy.

UFO wrote:

LocoCRD wrote:

I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right?

Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow.

Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think

Jeger wrote:

Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think

That might be the only reason, Im not sure exactly what they go through for legalizing the conversions.

Sir Sam wrote:

Jeger wrote:

Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think

That might be the only reason, Im not sure exactly what they go through for legalizing the conversions.

Most state laws I believe are you can not put an older engine in a vehicle than the vehicle. so you couldn't put a 05 CRD engine in an 07 FJ and still meet emissions requirements since that vehicle is required to meet 07 emission standards.

Hi guys...Sir Sam, is your first name Yosemite by any chance?

Author:	LocoCRD [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:24 am ]
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Check out http://dieseltoyz.com/Home.html they do custom toyota diesel conversions and have started testing the 2.8L CRD VM motor for swaps too.

Author:	nix [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:40 am ]
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That is awesome! I parked next to a H2 Hummer the other day and it had a DuraMax diesel conversion on it. This just goes to show how much the market is demanding diesel powered SUVs..

Author:	Sir Sam [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:31 pm ]
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LocoCRD wrote: Check out http://dieseltoyz.com/Home.html they do custom toyota diesel conversions and have started testing the 2.8L CRD VM motor for swaps too. crap, this just means increased demand for wrecked CRDs at auction, which means higher prices for me, I am not pleased.

Author:	LocoCRD [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:37 pm ]
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I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right?

Author:	UFO [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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LocoCRD wrote: I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right? Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow.

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Author:	Sir Sam [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:42 pm ]
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UFO wrote: LocoCRD wrote: I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right? Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow. I doubt we will see that, none of the stand alone petrol solutions can be easily adapted for diesel use, and I doubt they will want to invest the $$ into developing one on their own. They might be able to adapt the motec or alike. but really, how many of you want to spend $2500 just for a stand alone ECU? In reality all this means is more competition for me driving up prices. For as common cheap and readily availble diesel toyota, nissan, etc engines are in Japan I dont see why they want to focus on a few US engines, personally I would use a toyota engine in a toyota that was designed to be there and has support from overseas vendors.

Author:	Threeweight [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:50 pm ]
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Used 2.8 VM from a US junkyard is likely quite a bit cheaper than a new Toyota crate motor shipped over from Japan.

Author:	flash7210 [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:59 pm ]
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Sir Sam wrote: UFO wrote: LocoCRD wrote: I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right? Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow. I doubt we will see that, none of the stand alone petrol solutions can be easily adapted for diesel use, and I doubt they will want to invest the $$ into developing one on their own. They might be able to adapt the motec or alike. but really, how many of you want to spend $2500 just for a stand alone ECU? In reality all this means is more competition for me driving up prices. For as common cheap and readily availble diesel toyota, nissan, etc engines are in Japan I dont see why they want to focus on a few US engines, personally I would use a toyota engine in a toyota that was designed to be there and has support from overseas vendors. I'd have to agree. Personnally, I think that the 4BT Cummins would be the better choice. A lot more common and can support 400+ HP.

Author:	UFO [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:45 pm ]
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Threeweight wrote: Used 2.8 VM from a US junkyard is likely quite a bit cheaper than a new Toyota crate motor shipped over from Japan. Maybe. But I was researching a 2LT-II or a 1KZ to swap into my Toyota PU, and half-cuts were pretty reasonable at $3K or so; that delivers all parts needed, including ECM, harness, clutch, flywheel, and transmission. I agree, a CRD swap into a Toyota is not going to be cheap or easy.

Author:	Sir Sam [ Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:13 pm ]
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UFO wrote: Threeweight wrote: Used 2.8 VM from a US junkyard is likely quite a bit cheaper than a new Toyota crate motor shipped over from Japan. Maybe. But I was researching a 2LT-II or a 1KZ to swap into my Toyota PU, and half-cuts were pretty reasonable at $3K or so; that delivers all parts needed, including ECM, harness, clutch, flywheel, and transmission. I agree, a CRD swap into a Toyota is not going to be cheap or easy. Agreed.....front (used) clips from japan are cheap and plentiful, plus depending on the vehicle they can be a DIRECT bolt-in for that vehicle, toyota makes some nice engines that are common and cheap out of japan(like the 3k figure, I was quoted 2500 for a nissan ZD30DDTi engine(thats a 3L direct injection, dual overhead cam, turbocharged intercooled engine). That being said, I dont see why they need to gobble up our parts and drive up our auction prices.

Author:	ed. [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:11 am ]
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Sir Sam wrote: UFO wrote: LocoCRD wrote: I was hoping this means more support for our little oilers. Maybe something like a universal engine controller? I guess I can only dream right? Yeah, now you are talking. 6 speed manual tranny would logically follow. I doubt we will see that, none of the stand alone petrol solutions can be easily adapted for diesel use, and I doubt they will want to invest the $$ into developing one on their own. They might be able to adapt the motec or alike. but really, how many of you want to spend $2500 just for a stand alone ECU? In reality all this means is more competition for me driving up prices. For as common cheap and readily availble diesel toyota, nissan, etc engines are in Japan I dont see why they want to focus on a few US engines, personally I would use a toyota engine in a toyota that was designed to be there and has support from overseas vendors. Australia received a handful of CRD 6 speed manuals.

Author:	Jeger [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:51 am ]
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Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think

Author:	Sir Sam [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:48 pm ]
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Jeger wrote: Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think That might be the only reason, Im not sure exactly what they go through for legalizing the conversions.

Author:	RTStabler51 [ Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:44 pm ]
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Sir Sam wrote: Jeger wrote: Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think That might be the only reason, Im not sure exactly what they go through for legalizing the conversions. Most state laws I believe are you can not put an older engine in a vehicle than the vehicle. so you couldn't put a 05 CRD engine in an 07 FJ and still meet emissions requirements since that vehicle is required to meet 07 emission standards.

Author:	dieseltoyz [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:26 am ]
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Hehe, we are not a repo oriented business. If sam's prices are good, we'll refer our customers to him. Yay capitalism

Author:	Jeger [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:42 pm ]
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Thanks for stopping in here, its always nice to have some involvement like this. So.... why the CRD? And are you going to come up with anything we might be able to put to use? Engine controller, Tranny controller...what transmission are you using? What are you doing for fuel management? Be sure to read up here, there is a lot of good information that could be useful to you.

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Author:	Jeger [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:54 am ]
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RTStabler51 wrote: Sir Sam wrote: Jeger wrote: Perhaps they want to use the VM 2.8 because it meets the emissions standards for 2006 and previous model years. You could put one in a 2006 FJ and still be legal. I think That might be the only reason, Im not sure exactly what they go through for legalizing the conversions. Most state laws I believe are you can not put an older engine in a vehicle than the vehicle. so you couldn't put a 05 CRD engine in an 07 FJ and still meet emissions requirements since that vehicle is required to meet 07 emission standards. Right...but 2006 and older FJ's should be good to go.

Author:	flash7210 [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:31 am ]
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The way I remembered it when I lived in CA was... You could put any year engine/vehicle combo together. You just had to meet the emission standards of which ever one was newer. So you could put an '05 engine in an '07 vehicle but that engine had to meet '07 emissions. But, if the vehicle was more than 25 year old it was exempt from emissions testing so then it didn't matter what engine was in it. Emission standards and inspection precedures vary from state to state. I'm sure there are plenty of loopholes to get around it. Back when I first got my '70 Mustang (CA 1994) I had to get a smog check. It passed the tail pipe test but failed the equipment check. So, I took it home, parked it next to my '71 Ranchero and swapped all the smog equipment into the mustang. I drove it back for the smog check again and the mustang passed the test. Even though none of the equipment I added was functional it had to be there to pass the test. I don't know what the standards are for late model diesel passenger cars but I suspect that they are inspected for equipment only and maybe a particulate test. I think that the biggest stumbling block for a late model diesel swap (in any state) would be getting the vehicle re-titled as a diesel instead of a gasser.

Author:	dieseltoyz [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:00 am ]
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Hi guys...Sir Sam, is your first name Yosemite by any chance?

Author:	dgeist [ Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:12 am ]
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dieseltoyz wrote: Hi guys...Sir Sam, is your first name Yosemite by any chance? Are you guys going to start trying to out-repo each other now Seriously, DT, you should hire Sam to do CRD conversions for jeep models.