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Author:  alclubb [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Another battery question

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am not a mechanic and I don't really understand how these Optima batteries are different from regular batteries, and my car is having trouble starting in the last week. I am waiting for my dealer to let me know if they have a battery in stock to fit in my car.

I have read in different threads about trickle charging the Optima batteries that come in our CRDs, but I was wondering if you could jump start a car with an Optima battery like you do with regular batteries. If not, what do you do if you are caught with a battery that will not start your car at all?

Author:  Anomious [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:32 pm ]
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AGM batteries have several advantages over both gelled and flooded, at about the same cost as gelled:
Since all the electrolyte (acid) is contained in the glass mats, they cannot spill, even if broken. This also means that since they are non-hazardous, the shipping costs are lower. In addition, since there is no liquid to freeze and expand, they are practically immune from freezing damage.

Nearly all AGM batteries are "recombinant" - what that means is that the Oxygen and Hydrogen recombine INSIDE the battery. These use gas phase transfer of oxygen to the negative plates to recombine them back into water while charging and prevent the loss of water through electrolysis. The recombining is typically 99+% efficient, so almost no water is lost.

The charging voltages are the same as for any standard battery - no need for any special adjustments or problems with incompatible chargers or charge controls. And, since the internal resistance is extremely low, there is almost no heating of the battery even under heavy charge and discharge currents. The Concorde (and most AGM) batteries have no charge or discharge current limits.

AGM's have a very low self-discharge - from 1% to 3% per month is usual. This means that they can sit in storage for much longer periods without charging than standard batteries. The Concorde batteries can be almost fully recharged (95% or better) even after 30 days of being totally discharged.

AGM's do not have any liquid to spill, and even under severe overcharge conditions hydrogen emission is far below the 4% max specified for aircraft and enclosed spaces. The plates in AGM's are tightly packed and rigidly mounted, and will withstand shock and vibration better than any standard battery.

Yes! Ok to jump start. LK :)

Author:  alclubb [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:56 pm ]
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Wow - thanks for the crash course in batteries. I just found out that the dealer does not stock the battery for my CRD. It has to be "vendor shipped" so I am assuming that they mean it is an Optima battery that has to come from Optima. It is not a Mopar part. Anyway, they said it would take 3-4 days to get it in, and I want to make sure I don't get stuck somewhere waiting for the battery to come in. The only reason I am even fooling with the dealer is because the battery is covered under the 3/36 warranty, so I am trying to avoid paying to replace it. Thanks again for your help.

Author:  Anomious [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:13 pm ]
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Hi! Interstate Battery Co here in MD sells Optima. They should honor the battery warranty. Check your neighborhood for a dealer/distributor.

Best of luck!! Larry K :)

Don't let them stick you with a Mopar battery. :twisted:

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