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Don't worry about it. If you put mobil1 0-40 in it then it already has dino in it since the new 0-40 now has base 3 oils (they have stopped calling it full synthetic). That is why I now use mobil1 5-40 full synthetic turbodiesel truck oil, I think that the E-spec European car mobil1 might also be full synthetic but am not sure on that one.

From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
Synthetic Base Stocks

Synthetic motor oils have been made from the following classes of lubricants:

* Polyalphaolefin (PAO) = API (American Petroleum Institute) Group IV base oil
* Synthetic esters, etc = API Group V base oils (non-PAO synthetics, including diesters, polyolesters, alklylated napthlenes, alkyklated benzenes, etc.)
* Hydrocracked/Hydroisomerized = API Group III base oils. Chevron, Mobil, and other petrochemical companies developed processes involving catalytic conversion of feed stocks under pressure in the presence of hydrogen into high quality mineral lubricating oil. In 2005 production of GTL (Gas-to-liquid) Group III base stocks began. The best of these perform much like polyalphaolefin. Group III base stocks are considered synthetic motor oil in North America.[4][5]
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Author:	Milner [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:33 pm ]
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I am a dumb stupid!!!! I just changed the oil but I didn't look at the jug. I filled the filter with dino 10/40!! I have mixxed syn/dino in plenty of vehicles, I don't see any reason that little bit of dino would would hurt.... Just looking for some reassurance What are your thoughts?

Author:	chrispitude [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:40 pm ]
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It's not a problem, especially if it's just the oil filter volume. - Chris

Author:	CATCRD [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:21 pm ]
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No problem man. Sleep easy.

Author:	Uffe [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:01 am ]
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You should get some answers here too: http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html I'm not into mixing oil, but since the filter is 0,5 litre and the whole oil pan is 5,5 litre you shouldn't have problems according to normal logics. Unless there is a special rule about not mixing synth and non-synth oils.

Author:	DarbyWalters [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:01 am ]
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Mixing oil is never the best scenario...some additive packages do not play friendly...but such a small amount is not going to hurt anything. Mixing becomes a problem when people try to "blend" thier own and mix at 30-70 or better. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com is a great site for information

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Author:	rpapkey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:41 pm ]
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It'll be fine. But if something does happen don't tell the dealer you did this. It'll be our little secret.

Author:	nursecosmo [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:08 am ]
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Don't worry about it. If you put mobil1 0-40 in it then it already has dino in it since the new 0-40 now has base 3 oils (they have stopped calling it full synthetic). That is why I now use mobil1 5-40 full synthetic turbodiesel truck oil, I think that the E-spec European car mobil1 might also be full synthetic but am not sure on that one. From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil Synthetic Base Stocks Synthetic motor oils have been made from the following classes of lubricants: * Polyalphaolefin (PAO) = API (American Petroleum Institute) Group IV base oil * Synthetic esters, etc = API Group V base oils (non-PAO synthetics, including diesters, polyolesters, alklylated napthlenes, alkyklated benzenes, etc.) * Hydrocracked/Hydroisomerized = API Group III base oils. Chevron, Mobil, and other petrochemical companies developed processes involving catalytic conversion of feed stocks under pressure in the presence of hydrogen into high quality mineral lubricating oil. In 2005 production of GTL (Gas-to-liquid) Group III base stocks began. The best of these perform much like polyalphaolefin. Group III base stocks are considered synthetic motor oil in North America.[4][5] [/url]

Author:	barnez224 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:09 pm ]
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nursecosmo wrote: Don't worry about it. If you put mobil1 0-40 in it then it already has dino in it since the new 0-40 now has base 3 oils (they have stopped calling it full synthetic). That is why I now use mobil1 5-40 full synthetic turbodiesel truck oil, I think that the E-spec European car mobil1 might also be full synthetic but am not sure on that one. From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil Synthetic Base Stocks Synthetic motor oils have been made from the following classes of lubricants: * Polyalphaolefin (PAO) = API (American Petroleum Institute) Group IV base oil * Synthetic esters, etc = API Group V base oils (non-PAO synthetics, including diesters, polyolesters, alklylated napthlenes, alkyklated benzenes, etc.) * Hydrocracked/Hydroisomerized = API Group III base oils. Chevron, Mobil, and other petrochemical companies developed processes involving catalytic conversion of feed stocks under pressure in the presence of hydrogen into high quality mineral lubricating oil. In 2005 production of GTL (Gas-to-liquid) Group III base stocks began. The best of these perform much like polyalphaolefin. Group III base stocks are considered synthetic motor oil in North America.[4][5] [/url] nursecosmo, just curious...do you have an article or know where you got that information? I just changed my oil yesterday with mobil 0-40 and it definitely said full synthetic on the bottle, unless this is the European car spec oil you are referring to. Not sure, but I know it's the same stuff I have always bought.

Author:	nursecosmo [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:38 am ]
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Sorry barnez224, I should have specified that they had to change the name of the oil in Germany and Japan. See link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil "Group I base stocks are composed of fractionally distilled petroleum which is further refined with solvent extraction processes to improve certain properties such as oxidation resistance and to remove wax. Group II base stocks are composed of fractionally distilled petroleum that has been hydrocracked to further refine and purify it. Group III base stocks have similar characteristics to Group II base stocks, except that Group III base stocks have higher viscosity indexes. Group III base stocks are produced by further hydrocracking of Group II base stocks, or of hydroisomerized slack wax, (a byproduct of the dewaxing process). Group IV base stock are polyalphaolefins (PAOs). Group V is a catch all group for any other synthetic and mineral base stocks. Examples of group V base stocks include polyol esters, polyalkylene glycols (PAG oils), and perfluoropolyalkylethers (PFPAEs). Groups I and II are commonly referred to as mineral oils, group III is typically referred to as synthetic (except in Germany and Japan, where they must not be called synthetic) and group IV is a synthetic oil. Group V base oils are so diverse that there is no catch-all description. And if you have been buying Mobil 1 for very many years then no it is not same stuff that you have always bought. The formulation was changed in 2005" but this site is one of the most comprehensive at explaining what we are actually getting in that quart of "synthetic" http://www.synlube.com/synthetic.htm supposedly the M1 turbodiesel truck oil is still mostly PAO but I cant remember where I read that or find a link.

Author:	barnez224 [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:01 pm ]
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cool...thanks for the info

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