So what the best inexpensive tires for heavy CRD?

CRDLIBERTY · **Joined:** Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:52 pm **Posts:** 72

Mine have 44k miles and are shot lol just had a flat today.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:28 pm

my vote for tires is the BFG Radial Long Trail TA, you can get them as standard load, D or E.

I've been getting 245/75/16s from discount at $87 each.

geordi · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:37 pm

BFG: Made in the USA! Good stuff. If you want a longer-lasting set of shoes and don't do a lot of off-roading, the 215/85/16 BFG Commercial T/A M&S Load range E fit just fine, and are 50k mile rated for 2900lbs per tire. Since you won't be loading it nearly that much, they should last a good deal longer, and are only $112 at Sams Club.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:51 pm

I'm trying the Kumho KL78's - they had good Tirerack ratings (although not too many ratings in total) - $90 for 245/75 about the same as Sam's Long trails - but a more aggressive tread pattern. traction so far is great - but I only have 3000 miles on them so I don't know longevity.
(load range E)

litton · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:43 pm

I installed the Cooper Discovery ATR's in 235/70. Great tire on road and off, plus the higher load rating difinetly helps the handling. First I put them on my GC and liked them so much I stuck them on the Liberty. Google Mavis tire for great pricing and service. If I remember correctly they were about 100.00 ea.

KeighJeigh · **Posted:** Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:51 pm

I've been VERY happy with my Nokian Vatiivas for an all around tire (see my signature below).

Uffe · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:05 am

Another vote for a set of Cooper Discoverer ATR. Extremely quiet on road. Can't say about off-road yet, but tread pattern gives indication of sand/gravel only tire.

droptop · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:25 pm

I replaced the factory crap Wranglers at 18K with the ATR's. They have great winter traction and the tread pattern is similar to the Nokian Vatiiva's which happen to be made for Nokian by Cooper. Either tire will be an excellent choice.

Turbowhine · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:08 pm

I have ran the General Grabber AT2 for the past 23000 miles. They are a little noisy on the road but they are excellant on snow and ice (severe snow service rated) the are wearing just fine. I believe I paid around $60 per tire. They have an agressive open tread. I will definetly buy I another pair!

Joe

nursecosmo · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:09 pm

Pep boys Definity Dakota AT buy 3 get one free. I will definitely get another set when these wear out. traction and handling are outstanding on and offroad. I bought them for the snow and ice in Wisconsin but wont get to try them out for two more weeks when I move. I thought that they would be good for snow because of the extensive sipeing in the tread.

glaspak845 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:07 am

CRDLIBERTY wrote:

Mine have 44k miles and are shot lol just had a flat today.

Same thing happened to me at 40k miles. I opted for Firestone Destination LE's. Rated pretty well on tire rack and a local shop got them for $108 per tire including mounting and balancing.

Hoosierdaddy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:12 am

Another vote for Firestone Destination LE's. I recently installed Firestone Destination AT's slightly more noise but excellent snow traction. Tire racks web-site has a very informative rating system.

jinstall · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:48 am

I am using the Kumho 798 245/70/16 H106 from Tire Rack I think thye were $69 each.

biggiefl · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:20 pm

I have the GY St's and they are pretty much shot at just under 40k. I would like to go a tad bigger but am worried about MPG getting sniped. I have a SP tuner so I get 30+ on highway and don't want to risk losing much...any thoughts on MPG vs tire size? I was think 235 or 245 70's.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:33 pm

The reason larger tires generally result in lower MPG is due to people usually choosing WIDER instead of TALLER tires. To increase the width, you also increase the contact patch, which increases the road friction... Which increases the demand for power to counteract the friction. You can counteract the increased weight of the larger tires usually by just cleaning out the dead bodies stacked in the cargo area. Most of the cars I've seen around here (grad school) are rolling landfills. Mine too, sometimes. :oops:

That's why I went with the 215/85 size - Narrower contact patch, and I can lengthen or reduce that patch by changing the air loading in the tire. The tires are also TALLER than the stock, so the wheel turns slower at the same road speed - less revolutions = less fuel spent for the same distance. The 215/85 fit just fine without a lift kit, the next set I get will be 235/85, which would not fit without at least a 1" lift, probably a 2" would be best. The 215/85 are just over 1/2" taller than stock, the 235/85 are 1.5" over stock, and reduce the rpm by a BIG amount.

Since I do mostly highway or on-road, the reduced width doesn't bother me, and the KJ still has the ability to pull stuff out of the mud if needed, just by airing down a LOT to soften up the tires. Since that isn't my primary duty... I'm OK with having to change the air once in a while.

YMMV of course.

biggiefl · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:36 pm

So just stick with stock P225's?

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:38 pm

Why would you do that? Do you like having soft PASSENGER CAR (that's what the "P" stands for) on your light-truck weight Jeep?

cerich · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:53 pm

geordi wrote:

Why would you do that? Do you like having soft PASSENGER CAR (that's what the "P" stands for) on your light-truck weight Jeep?

not all 225 are soft passenger car tires, in fact few of them are.

Wider tires is more for looks and cornering than anything else. Other than the mileage issue discussed already narrower are also better in many off road situations. After all we have jeeps, not street Escalades

nursecosmo · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:05 pm

cerich wrote:

Wider tires is more for looks and cornering than anything else. Other than the mileage issue discussed already narrower are also better in many off road situations. After all we have jeeps, not street Escalades

In which offroad scenario could narrower tires possibly be better?

cerich · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:23 pm

nursecosmo wrote:

cerich wrote:

Wider tires is more for looks and cornering than anything else. Other than the mileage issue discussed already narrower are also better in many off road situations. After all we have jeeps, not street Escalades

In which offroad scenario could narrower tires possibly be better?

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