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Author:  crd liberty [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Cleaned MAP
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I cleaned the MAP today and it was hardly dirty.
History of this being clean.
Sept 07 22,500 Last cleaning
Nov 07 23,900 EHM
Jan 08 26,150 SEGR
Feb 08 27,645 Cleaned MAP

I am a firm believer that these Mods work
Steve
Author:  UFO [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:43 pm ]
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Looks good -- I'll have to check mine. It's been about 4k miles since I first cleaned my MAP and installed the CCV mod. And 2k since the SEGR was installed.
Author:  honey_don't [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:45 pm ]
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good to see an "after" photo. Here is mine at 24.5K miles:

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I rigged up this EHM with catch can to keep my new driveway pavers oil-free. It was originally installed on the TDI the black elbow is unecessary on this app. It is an interim solution until:
1. SEGR is installed
2. wife judges whether EHM stink is acceptable

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Author:  nursecosmo [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:46 pm ]
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It's evidently getting soot from somewhere. Do you think that the coating on there is from before your mods? Your pic is about the same as mine looked after 10k with the ORM.
Author:  05infernoCRDL [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:49 pm ]
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honey_don't,

because of the filter in you EMH you can hook it back up where it is supposed to
go and should be free of oil in your intake and the smell around the car
Author:  honey_don't [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:55 pm ]
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05infernoCRDL wrote:
honey_don't,

because of the filter in you EMH you can hook it back up where it is supposed to
go and should be free of oil in your intake and the smell around the car


Yeah, thats how I had it installed on the TDI. This catch can still lets some oil vapor through so I figured I'd experiment with the Elephant hose layout, it was easier too. If the smell is too bad I'll add some SS scouring pad and reroute to the intake. Most likely, the permanent install will use either a provent or tdiwagonguy catch can.
Author:  nursecosmo [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:59 pm ]
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Has anyone used a water trap for air compressors as a type of provent?
Author:  crd liberty [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:01 pm ]
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First post is mine and thats not after photo.
That is before I cleaned it. YES
Steve
Author:  DDom [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:05 pm ]
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i believe there will always be soot build-up on the MAP due to turbo bearing blow-by. The SEGR and CCV bypass will certainly aid but not eliminate our condition. again this is my belief which is based solely on my OWN observed situation.
Author:  honey_don't [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:12 pm ]
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crd liberty wrote:
First post is mine and thats not after photo.
That is before I cleaned it. YES
Steve


sorry for the confusion, I meant after EGR and CCV mods not after cleaning
Author:  gmctd [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:16 pm ]
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What turbo bearing blowby???
Author:  nursecosmo [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:19 pm ]
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DDom wrote:
i believe there will always be soot build-up on the MAP due to turbo bearing blow-by. The SEGR and CCV bypass will certainly aid but not eliminate our condition. again this is my belief which is based solely on my OWN observed situation.

The turbo blowby if any, will be an oily film not soot or tar.
Author:  crd liberty [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:26 pm ]
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honey_don't wrote:
good to see an "after" photo. Here is mine at 24.5K miles:

Image

I rigged up this EHM with catch can to keep my new driveway pavers oil-free. It was originally installed on the TDI the black elbow is unecessary on this app. It is an interim solution until:
1. SEGR is installed
2. wife judges whether EHM stink is acceptable

Image


I kinda like the idea of that catch you have on there. I might
experiment on that idea.
If your hose from the CCV was a little higher, just before it bends, I think more oil
would drain back where it belongs.
Just for thought.
Steve
Author:  honey_don't [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:58 pm ]
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good idea Steve, I will mess around with the orientation.

FYI, my catch can is a ShurFlo water separator, I bought it at West Marine for ~$22
Author:  nursecosmo [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:04 pm ]
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honey_don't wrote:

FYI, my catch can is a ShurFlo water separator, I bought it at West Marine for ~$22


That's what I wanted to know.
Author:  Threeweight [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:17 pm ]
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I have a ccv filter on order from TDIWagonGuy, who has been making them for VW's for years. I'll post a report on the install.

edit: TDI forum won't let me link to a picture.
Author:  DDom [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:03 pm ]
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nursecosmo wrote:
DDom wrote:
i believe there will always be soot build-up on the MAP due to turbo bearing blow-by. The SEGR and CCV bypass will certainly aid but not eliminate our condition. again this is my belief which is based solely on my OWN observed situation.

The turbo blowby if any, will be an oily film not soot or tar.


I would agree any blowby will be in the form of oil, but eventually that oil will foul our sensors, SEGR or not. I have been pulling my turbo to CAC tube regularly and notice an unusual amount of oil.

dom
Author:  Drewd [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:44 pm ]
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I'm done cleaning my MAP. I pulled it last week and it was virtually spotless with only a whisp of oil on it. Disabling the EGR and using a Provent CCV has fixed the problem as far as I am concerned.
Author:  CHessMaster [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:13 am ]
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I just pulled my MAP out today for a cleaning as the Jeep turned 10,000 miles since I installed the SEGR (46,000 total miles). There was just a light coating of oil on it, and not a hint of any kind of soot (like the previous cleaning before the ORM I did around 15,000 miles). I couldn't be happier! :D
Bottom line, a little over 30,000 miles without EGR, and everything is dandy.

BTW, I'm still using the stock CCV. When I do an oil change, I just put 6 quarts in and leave it that way. :wink:
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