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Where are the Biodiesel Home Brewers when they are needed?
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Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Where are the Biodiesel Home Brewers when they are needed?
Last week I was in New Ulm, Mn to startup some new equipment. There is a Dairy processing plant dumping Butter Fat down the drain and into the sewer. On Friday they dumped so much Butter Fat that it totally clogged up the new equipment at the Waste Water Pumping Station Head Works where they remove the trash and grit.

If any one is a Biodiesel Home Brewer near New Ulm, MN please call the local Dairy Plants and take this off their hands before they run it through the sewer lines.

Photo shows plug in compactor with the top third of it being Butter Fat that came out of the sewer, the equipment can handle this much but not barrel loads: http://picasaweb.google.com/warp2diesel ... wnTheDrain

Steve

Now you all know what I do.
Sometimes the brown stinkies feels better than I do :lol:
BTW: Chinese Restaurants dump the most down the drain with the Mexican Restaurants coming in second place, this is a fact where no racial slurs are implied or intended, besides both have great food that is cheap to eat. You may need to eat there to get the restaurants to hand over their bio-stock.
Author:  UFO [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:46 pm ]
Post subject: 
Biodiesel from butterfat is suitable for weather in Hawaii, not Minnesota. I would expect it's cloud point to be approximately that of tallow, around 15C or 60F. That stuff would be a candle in the tank when it reaches 50F.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Biodiesel, not SVO
UFO: I thought the Esterfication process thins it out so it does not do the Grease clog up.

Steve
Author:  UFO [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Biodiesel, not SVO
warp2diesel wrote:
UFO: I thought the Esterfication process thins it out so it does not do the Grease clog up.

Steve
Only when it's liquid. That does not translate to lower gelling temperatures. It's also why biodiesel from palm oil is not suitable for most of the US as well.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  What about...
.... processing it for larger stationary engines that use thicker fuel. Some Navy Diesel powered vessels use Bunker C a much thicker fuel.

Thought,

Steve
Author:  UFO [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:47 pm ]
Post subject: 
Heated fuel systems for diesels are common. Lots of people have converted diesels to run vegetable oil by installing heated tanks, lines and filters, with valves to switch over once the fuel is hot. Same thing applies to biodiesel in colder climates. It just costs lots of money and effort, not to mention the attention needed to switch fuel systems in and out. Forget to purge and you are dead in the water.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  OK the Butter stuff is thick
UFO: MN is not -40f year round, it does get into the 90s in summer. Rather than sending it all to the dump, what about a B-5 or other blend that will thin it out enough. Bio made from Butter fat could be used to thicken left over winter blend, right. Transfat type grease used for cooking food has a higher melting point than butter, but is used to make biodiesel. B-100 made from Canola is not the only option.

Steve
Author:  UFO [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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Correct, it can be made into summer fuel, and it can be cut to survive cooler temperatures. But here I am in Colorado still having to run B50 made from soy, and my garage is filling up with WVO because I can't make fuel fast enough (unheated garage does not help). Making summer fuel in the winter would be a low priority as my needs are fueling next month. Maybe the butter can be stored until it's warm enough to make it into fuel without solidifying.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Never look a gift horse in the mouth
UFO: I am sure there is a Farmer Diesel Home Brewer up there who can use a bunch up in the summer.


Steve
Author:  UFO [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Never look a gift horse in the mouth
warp2diesel wrote:
UFO: I am sure there is a Farmer Diesel Home Brewer up there who can use a bunch up in the summer.


Steve
I hope so.
Author:  kcfoxie [ Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:36 pm ]
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Much of the current research is trying to combine percentiles of different waste fats and oils to get a uniform output item that has good cold weather properties. Butter fat is just another example of a waste stream that could keep California and Florida operational year-round. Imagine Biodiesel-powered electric substations or generators, or as stated marine uses.
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