Hi 1st Post: For the TC Suncoast or Euro?

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:18 pm

Can someone tell me the benefits of one versus another?

Does suncoast have a lower stall speed?

I'm guessing they are probably a little stronger than the factory one even the Euro..??

Thanks! :JEEPIN:

irollgen4s · **Posted:** Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:56 pm

same stall as far as i know of. Main difference is the suncoast is stronger and beefier then the euro, it dampens the vibrations a bit. Euro is said to be enough for all of GDE's tunes by most.

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:55 pm

I have the Euro TC and GDE Full torque tune and ocassionally tow 3500#s and have never had any problems. :SOMBRERO:

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:11 am

Thanks everyone.

So where is a good source for a euro TC?

Anyone have a part number handy?

papaindigo · **Posted:** Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:24 am

I'm pretty sure the number is 68037142AA but best get confirmation. As to where best I can say is shop around and consider core charge and shipping to you and shipping a core back in looking for a good price. http://www.moparonlineparts.com/partloc ... eid=214954 has them for $315 but I don't know what the actual final at your destination price is.

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:43 pm

Thank you! :BINGO:

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:59 pm

After looking at your other posts requesting info on upgraded injectors, larger turbo, ect.
You might as well go with Suncoast, it is a stronger converter, just because of the components it is made from.
Billet front cover, stronger friction material, stronger splinted hub, and a aluminum stator instead of Phenolic are some of the components that come to mind. If you go to the Sonnax web site and check out the guts in the kit used to create a Hemi racing torque converter, that is what is used to make the CRD Suncoast. Suncoast selected and tested the components such as turbine, stator, and so on with the optimum performance for a performance tuned CRD.
To be honest about the Euro converter, it is what VM told Chrysler they should have done from day one for a stock converter. VM knew the original converter would not handle the torque of the VM 2.8L engine as originally tuned.
Plus, if you have the money, Suncoast has a way to make the 545RFE handle 400 HP along with improved valve body components and through BG Chrysler a TCM tune that blows others away.

I only have the Suncoast converter, Transgo kit, and PML extra deep pan. I have no plans to push my 2.8L VM over the ~200 HP it is putting out now and do not feel I need the 400HP trans upgrade.

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:30 pm

warp2diesel wrote:

After looking at your other posts requesting info on upgraded injectors, larger turbo, ect.
You might as well go with Suncoast, it is a stronger converter, just because of the components it is made from.
Billet front cover, stronger friction material, stronger splinted hub, and a aluminum stator instead of Phenolic are some of the components that come to mind. If you go to the Sonnax web site and check out the guts in the kit used to create a Hemi racing torque converter, that is what is used to make the CRD Suncoast. Suncoast selected and tested the components such as turbine, stator, and so on with the optimum performance for a performance tuned CRD.
To be honest about the Euro converter, it is what VM told Chrysler they should have done from day one for a stock converter. VM knew the original converter would not handle the torque of the VM 2.8L engine as originally tuned.
Plus, if you have the money, Suncoast has a way to make the 545RFE handle 400 HP along with improved valve body components and through BG Chrysler a TCM tune that blows others away.

I only have the Suncoast converter, Transgo kit, and PML extra deep pan. I have no plans to push my 2.8L VM over the ~200 HP it is putting out now and do not feel I need the 400HP trans upgrade.

Thank you for the reply, I agree with you in that I may be pushing the limits of the euro. I believe in doing it right one time

I do have a spare 545 trans with the transgo kit in it from a jeep grand cherokee. I believe that they are the same so I may use it, but I need to research it some more. So I could just need to the suncoast tc and tcm tune.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:35 pm

yrkcrd wrote:

warp2diesel wrote:

After looking at your other posts requesting info on upgraded injectors, larger turbo, ect.
You might as well go with Suncoast, it is a stronger converter, just because of the components it is made from.
Billet front cover, stronger friction material, stronger splinted hub, and a aluminum stator instead of Phenolic are some of the components that come to mind. If you go to the Sonnax web site and check out the guts in the kit used to create a Hemi racing torque converter, that is what is used to make the CRD Suncoast. Suncoast selected and tested the components such as turbine, stator, and so on with the optimum performance for a performance tuned CRD.
To be honest about the Euro converter, it is what VM told Chrysler they should have done from day one for a stock converter. VM knew the original converter would not handle the torque of the VM 2.8L engine as originally tuned.
Plus, if you have the money, Suncoast has a way to make the 545RFE handle 400 HP along with improved valve body components and through BG Chrysler a TCM tune that blows others away.

I only have the Suncoast converter, Transgo kit, and PML extra deep pan. I have no plans to push my 2.8L VM over the ~200 HP it is putting out now and do not feel I need the 400HP trans upgrade.

Thank you for the reply, I agree with you in that I may be pushing the limits of the euro. I believe in doing it right one time

I do have a spare 545 trans with the transgo kit in it from a jeep grand cherokee. I believe that they are the same so I may use it, but I need to research it some more. So I could just need to the suncoast tc and tcm tune.

With the cost of the Transgo ~$65 - $70, it would not be worth your time swapping it out. The front pump needs the Transgo valves and springs to fix the crappy valve seat that can cause shudder. Sonnax has a fix too, but the tool to install their valve is ~$1,500. Or you can buy a whole new front pump. I reused my front pump cover as had Suncoast after putting in a new "O" ring.
I would keep your other trans as a spare.

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:43 pm

warp2diesel wrote:

yrkcrd wrote:

warp2diesel wrote:

After looking at your other posts requesting info on upgraded injectors, larger turbo, ect.
You might as well go with Suncoast, it is a stronger converter, just because of the components it is made from.
Billet front cover, stronger friction material, stronger splinted hub, and a aluminum stator instead of Phenolic are some of the components that come to mind. If you go to the Sonnax web site and check out the guts in the kit used to create a Hemi racing torque converter, that is what is used to make the CRD Suncoast. Suncoast selected and tested the components such as turbine, stator, and so on with the optimum performance for a performance tuned CRD.
To be honest about the Euro converter, it is what VM told Chrysler they should have done from day one for a stock converter. VM knew the original converter would not handle the torque of the VM 2.8L engine as originally tuned.
Plus, if you have the money, Suncoast has a way to make the 545RFE handle 400 HP along with improved valve body components and through BG Chrysler a TCM tune that blows others away.

I only have the Suncoast converter, Transgo kit, and PML extra deep pan. I have no plans to push my 2.8L VM over the ~200 HP it is putting out now and do not feel I need the 400HP trans upgrade.

Thank you for the reply, I agree with you in that I may be pushing the limits of the euro. I believe in doing it right one time

I do have a spare 545 trans with the transgo kit in it from a jeep grand cherokee. I believe that they are the same so I may use it, but I need to research it some more. So I could just need to the suncoast tc and tcm tune.

With the cost of the Transgo ~$65 - $70, it would not be worth your time swapping it out. The front pump needs the Transgo valves and springs to fix the crappy valve seat that can cause shudder. Sonnax has a fix too, but the tool to install their valve is ~$1,500. Or you can buy a whole new front pump. I reused my front pump cover as had Suncoast after putting in a new "O" ring.
I would keep your other trans as a spare.

Good thoughts

Other trans does have the transgo pump upgrade too. Hmm decisions decisions as the other trans only has 59k miles versus liberty one with 84k LOL

yrkcrd · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:16 pm

Looks like they changed the connector on the trans in 2004, my jeep one is pre 2004 so looks like that makes my decision easy LOL.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:32 pm

Do you still have the TCM for the GC?
Send me a PM if you do.

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