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We Just Want More Power! Towing Fuel Economy maybe good too.
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Author:  fastRob [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  We Just Want More Power! Towing Fuel Economy maybe good too.
Now that the Suncoast T/C and shift kit are installed it is time for a little fun juice: Power
Granted, the wife would be a little tweaked if the pistons blew out the side of the motor.
So, ease off on the pedal fella.
Since there has been a little factory "customer satisfaction" de-tune also known as the infamous "F37" we know there is a little something available.
How would you go?
Author:  4x4_Fantasy [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:50 pm ]
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Hey Robert, you could always add this little fella.

http://4x4fantasy.com/product_info.php? ... ts_id=3468

Gains up to 25HP and torque 40 ft. lbs.

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Author:  gmctd [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:11 pm ]
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SEGR will increase power by eliminating EGR, ensuring pure atmosphere intake to each cylinder - result: engine feels lots peppier - any power module that connects to Rail Pressure and MAP really helps - I have EDGE Trail, soon to be upgraded to reflash - Inmotion StageII reflash is best allaround, as it upgrades timing and injection event as well as dumping more fuel and maintaining increased Boost - same price as most power boxes, @350bucks - again, fuel economy is adversely affected by intense application of right foot to go pedal, a severe problem I like to term 'happy feet' - I recommend the reflash over any power module - pull your ECM, ship it out, you get it back within the week, except much heavier................
Author:  RTStabler51 [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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gmctd wrote:
SEGR will increase power by eliminating EGR, ensuring pure atmosphere intake to each cylinder - result: engine feels lots peppier - any power module that connects to Rail Pressure and MAP really helps - I have EDGE Trail, soon to be upgraded to reflash - Inmotion StageII reflash is best allaround, as it upgrades timing and injection event as well as dumping more fuel and maintaining increased Boost - same price as most power boxes, @350bucks - again, fuel economy is adversely affected by intense application of right foot to go pedal, a severe problem I like to term 'happy feet' - I recommend the reflash over any power module - pull your ECM, ship it out, you get it back within the week, except much heavier................
Are you saying you are doing the InMotion flash AND the Edge Trail?
Author:  gmctd [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:51 pm ]
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That will be one of the tests, soon's I finish setting up to get a baseline performance reference - wiring and instruments going in even as we type.
Author:  onthehunt [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:00 pm ]
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You could buy mine as I do not have a torque converter that will hold it.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=34805
Author:  aandlwoods [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:00 am ]
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2005+ Jeep Liberty CRD 2.8L Common-Rail Turbo-Diesel SIIe Remote Series Module

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10 Power Levels including the evil HO (High Output) Mode
Stock and Fuel Economy Mode
Built in Display
Common-Rail High Pressure Fuel Gauge (CP3)
Boost Gauge
Easiest Install around for an in-cab controller with display
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Pyrometer is recommended if using higher power levels

2005+ Jeep Liberty CRD 2.8L Common-Rail Turbo-Diesell SIIe Remote Series Module +90HP/150TQ $599.99
Author:  fastRob [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  How about this fella?
Saw this while looking for gauges....

http://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/products.cfm

TSMP8 - 2005-2006 Jeep CRD 2.8L TS Performance Power Module, This module works with your vehicles ECM to provide increased power. You can add up to 50 HP and 100 lbs. of torque. This is an easy to install under hood module with a variable dash mounted dial for an infinite variety of settings and levels. The MP8 is also easy to update.
Author:  gmctd [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:04 am ]
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http://www.tsperformance.com/Power_Play_faq.html

There's some poop in their hype, as there always is, but as it's physically unattainable, it seems no worse than others - sorta dangerous putting Boost control in the hands of the driver, particularly so if the vehicle doesn't have an EGT guage and a Boost guage installed, or if the driver doesn't understand the relationship between Diesel btu output and increased fuel input
Author:  fastRob [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Good Thinking!
gmctd wrote:
http://www.tsperformance.com/Power_Play_faq.html

There's some poop in their hype, as there always is, but as it's physically unattainable, it seems no worse than others - sorta dangerous putting Boost control in the hands of the driver, particularly so if the vehicle doesn't have an EGT guage and a Boost guage installed, or if the driver doesn't understand the relationship between Diesel btu output and increased fuel input


Yes,
There could be temptation to exceed safe parameters at a whim.
Why is boost so important?
Don't the exhaust gas temperatures tell all?

Leaning toward the Inmotion reflash, maybe looking for another ECU, keep it simple...
Author:  gmctd [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:29 pm ]
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Air and fuel = heat - Boost is lots of air - Boost and lots of fuel = tremendous heat in the same small area - if you trick ECM into believing Boost is low per demand, it will alter vacuum on turbo to allow more Boost, then , with Rail Pressure being offset, crank up the fuel to generate required Boost - Boost is made by fuel, not the other way around - requires exhaust energy in the turbine to drive the compressor - more Boost requires more exhaust energy, more exhaust energy requires more rpm\fuel - or more fuel at any rpm - that's the difference in a Diesel and that other kind of engine - we can add as much fuel and air at any rpm as necessary to get the job done - they gotta throttle plate dictating air intake and corresponding stoke - pity them.....................
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