Air Shocks ??

MooseMeat · **Posted:** Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:48 pm

Does anyone make air shocks for the Liberty?

been searching but not finding anything.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:14 pm

With the front shock being tucked inside the spring like a McPherson Strut, good luck.
The rear are conventional shocks so it should be possible.

One opinion I will stick to is that MONROE SHOCKS are JUNK :!:

There are others out there that are much better.

Read the threads and try to pick one that fits your style and driving conditions, off road is not highway.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:26 pm

MooseMeat wrote:

Does anyone make air shocks for the Liberty?

been searching but not finding anything.

Standard air shocks should work in the rear.

Turbo Tim · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:18 am

Do NOT use air shocks. The mounting for your shocks are not designed to support the weight of the vehicle.
Ya, you could get away with it for awhile, but most end up tearing out the mount on the frame or off the axel.
My advice, get real springs or add air bags.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:21 am

Turbo Tim wrote:

Do NOT use air shocks. The mounting for your shocks are not designed to support the weight of the vehicle.
Ya, you could get away with it for awhile, but most end up tearing out the mount on the frame or off the axel.
My advice, get real springs or add air bags.

Air shocks work just like regular shocks but are pneumatically adjustable. Air shocks are not meant to support the weight of the vehicle, but rather dampen suspension movement just like any other gas charged shocks.

Turbo Tim · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:37 am

We must be talking about two different kinds of shocks here. The air shocks that I know of are also known as load levelers. To give you that extra boost with a heavy load or trailer. Those kind act like a pneumatic spring.
One of the big problems is that the shock runs at some angle (30* or so) off of vertical, where your springs are on a vertical axis to the rear axel. The air shocks that I know of by providing that extra spring effect, effectively try to push the rear axel out the back, instead of straight down to assist in the load carrying capacity.

I have never heard of ones that changes the dampening characteristics by adding air pressure. There are off road shocks that use nitrogen at different pressures, but air?
What brand or who makes these?

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:57 am

Turbo Tim wrote:

We must be talking about two different kinds of shocks here. The air shocks that I know of are also known as load levelers. To give you that extra boost with a heavy load or trailer. Those kind act like a pneumatic spring.
One of the big problems is that the shock runs at some angle (30* or so) off of vertical, where your springs are on a vertical axis to the rear axel. The air shocks that I know of by providing that extra spring effect, effectively try to push the rear axel out the back, instead of straight down to assist in the load carrying capacity.

I have never heard of ones that changes the dampening characteristics by adding air pressure. There are off road shocks that use nitrogen at different pressures, but air?
What brand or who makes these?

Your talking about load levelers(full on suspension upgrades). I am talking about air shocks; They are just like gas charged shocks but are pneumatically adjustable, for heavyer loads and towing. I run them on all my cherokees.

For a Cherokee(rear):
http://www.partsamerica.com/productdeta ... 50&PTSet=A

Front Cherokee:
http://www.partsamerica.com/productdeta ... 50&PTSet=A

MooseMeat · **Posted:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:24 pm

I think I am going to install air bags in the springs.

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/cgi ... o_shopping

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:26 am

those work great! I installed some Air Lift bags for a Toyota 4Runner on my KJ

danoid · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:01 pm

I had a set of Air Lifts installed in the rear springs. I had a guy install them after hours at a tire shop so I didn't get a part number. I think I paid $400 cash (don't know if I was taken - time was a factor). They've worked well for three years now - can't complain.

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:30 pm

I installed mine myself in about 1 hour and I think I paid about $80 for the bags

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:38 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

those work great! I installed some Air Lift bags for a Toyota 4Runner on my KJ

What he said. Got them from summit for both our ZJ and my KJ. Things are very cheap and work out great!

The 4runner bags are for lifted kj's that have OME springs.

flash7210 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:46 pm

danoid wrote:

I had a set of Air Lifts installed in the rear springs. I had a guy install them after hours at a tire shop so I didn't get a part number. I think I paid $400 cash (don't know if I was taken - time was a factor). They've worked well for three years now - can't complain.

What is the benefit of the airbags?
How much more weight can you carry over the rear axle?
Does this eliminate the need for a weight distributing hitch?
Did yours include the pump? How do you inflate them?

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:33 pm

What is the benefit of the airbags? to prevent sagging or uneven loads and better handling
How much more weight can you carry over the rear axle? none, main job is to help prevent sagging and a better handling when you have a heavy load
Does this eliminate the need for a weight distributing hitch? NO!
Did yours include the pump? no
How do you inflate them?at a gas station with free air, or you can use a bicycle pump or if you carry a air compressor with you that will work too, I leave mine at 10psi and I add air when I am towing or have a heavy load

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:50 pm

Correct. These DO NOT replaced a WD setup. A WD setup puts weight back on the front wheels that would otherwise be taken off.

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