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Author:	warp2diesel [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Chrysler LLC wants to listen?
Yell Loud, they are hard of hearing: https://community.chryslerlistens.com/e ... eaderImage Cut costs, fire a bean counter

Author:	lionseye640 [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:52 pm ]
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Joined. Maybe if enough people join, they'll finally listen to complaints (especially about window regulators! )

Author:	Fulltimer [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:08 pm ]
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I'm already on it. Not sure it helps any. Terry

Author:	mackruss [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Chrysler LLC wants to listen?
warp2diesel wrote: Yell Loud, they are hard of hearing: https://community.chryslerlistens.com/e ... eaderImage Cut costs, fire a bean counter Oh great, i suppose because i reside in Africa I get told that my criteria doesn't match what they're looking for... What is LLC by the way

Author:	bugnout [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:47 pm ]
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Limited Liability Corporation Cerebus officers/owners protecting themselves.

Author:	stump doctor [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:41 pm ]
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WAAAA i am too old

Author:	butcher_block [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:06 pm ]
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im in but im not sure i like the layout i ll check out how it looks in a few days

Author:	ac5501 [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Well
They might listen, but it may not matter as it looks like there is a really good chance GM will Buy, Gut and Cut Chrysler to pieces. Which begs the question, how does everybody here feel about GM Jeep - as the jeep brand will most likely survive. The things Im hearing here in SE Michigan is that its pretty much a done deal, but who knows.

Author:	jmoomaw [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Hope I don't get sspammed and then scammed...
Just signed up. We will see....

Author:	danoid [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:05 pm ]
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They must have sent out a lot of those today. I started this before I saw yours... http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=36862

Author:	retmil46 [ Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:13 pm ]
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Why not just cut to the chase and join the GM board instead? Looks like they'll end up owning Chrysler anyway.

Author:	jinstall [ Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:58 pm ]
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Just like FOrd and GM/Opel all the interesting cars are in Europe or the rest of the world.

Author:	Sir Sam [ Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:19 pm ]
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I joined up, so far I don't see any real way to provide good feedback, mostly just things like "How much do you like us?" "Would you like us more if you had a sticker showing how much you love Chrysler LLC?" (But you can't have a sticker saying how much you love, Chrysler, Dodge, or Jeep, only Chrysler LLC)

Author:	geordi [ Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:31 pm ]
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It will snow in Hell before they would actually listen. I don't know that I believe that Toyota et al are run by the engineers, but I know for a fact that the Detroit bunch haven't been able to pull their MBA lips off the arse of the next MBA higher for decades. The chances of them ACTUALLY asking for an opinion that might not agree with their own preconceived notions... HA!

Author:	kjfishman [ Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:24 am ]
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They are listening to us about future products but are totally deaf when we want to discuss problems with past product. The question should be will Jeep survive a GM/Chrysler merger? What brands will disappear?

Author:	Sir Sam [ Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:37 pm ]
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kjfishman wrote: They are listening to us about future products but are totally deaf when we want to discuss problems with past product. The question should be will Jeep survive a GM/Chrysler merger? What brands will disappear? IMO complaining about past problems isn't going to get us anywhere, wherever possible we should provide feedback that will encourage DCJ to keep them from merging and encourage them to produce more diesels.

Author:	nursecosmo [ Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:37 pm ]
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Sir Sam wrote: IMO complaining about past problems isn't going to get us anywhere, wherever possible we should provide feedback that will encourage DCJ to keep them from merging and encourage them to produce more diesels. I don't know. I think a patriot with a MightyMax under the hood, or a 6.7 Cummins in front of an Allison gearbox in a 2500 Sierra would be sweet.

Author:	truckbouy2 [ Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:09 pm ]
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I got invited to join when they started it. Why me.... From what I see monitoring the, Chrysler Advisory site, Chrysler is in trouble...BIG trouble. The latest discussion I have commented in was, Designing a bumper sticker to promote Chrysler Pride and Loyalty. I don't think my comments were well received. But all in all, it does sound like we'll be getting a REALLY nice bumper sticker. Vehicles nobody wants but they WILL have a REALLY nice sticker on the bumper

Author:	geordi [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:47 am ]
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Typical response from the MBA crowd. I graduated from a school that turned out dozens of these "business savvy" in-duh-viduals every year. For a school with only about 4000 undergrads, graduating about a hundred MBAs every year is a stunning waste of classroom space. The idea of 'go team' being more important than 'sell a product that people WANT TO BUY' is exactly the kind of horse manure they were trained to produce. I'm sorry, but what good is brand loyalty when the brand isn't offering anything WORTH being loyal to? Back in the day, Mopar made some kick-butt muscle cars. The Hemi Cuda springs to mind. I consider myself a Ford guy, b/c my first 3 cars personally were all Ford. Lincoln Town Car, Taurus, and Lincoln Mark VII. My father had an Olds Toranado back in the day before I was born, and my mom had a Buick Skylark. First non-Detroit we had was a Datsun 200sx that my dad got in the early 80s. So I grew up playing with Detroit products. I LIKED the Fords. Solid designs (except for the Taurus, but it was cheap) and still like SOME of their offerings. I'm not crazy about the 4.6 mod motor, but I've never really worked on it. The point? I'm loyal to Ford b/c they built a SOLID product. Then. I don't know about now, they haven't built what I want to buy - a diesel engine for less than $50,000 in an oversized truck. Meanwhile, in 96 my family bought a Town and Country minivan. It completely ATE it's transmission at 40k, 80k, and 120k... Almost on the nose each time. This in a perfectly BONE STOCK van, driven easily. Why? A cosmic FOULUP from Mopar - The transmission lacked proper cooling. A simple $20 aux cooler later... And the SAME VAN now has 250k on the original motor... And that tranny from 120k is still there. Add in to consideration the mindblowingly BAD designs of the Grand Cherokee's PLASTIC pulleys, the KJ's PLASTIC TC that we all know so well... The fact that a non-moving part (the AC evaporator core) will EAT itself every few years from simply being in the presence of normal AC refrigerant... And a picture starts to form: MOPAR has done NOTHING since the 70's to EARN our brand loyalty. And they think that a shiny bumper sticker is going to entice people? NOW who's putting lipstick on a pig? BTW: I'd comment about GM... But my standing as a Ford Guy says that I shouldn't like them... Just Because.

Author:	Sir Sam [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:51 am ]
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"How about Chrysler LLC - Smokem while you got'em. If Chrysler allows GM to assimilate them into their collective then all hope is lost. Hard to think of inspirational slogans when the company is about to be violated and we're all forced to watch."

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