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Another 2.8L swap article from Diesel Power Mag
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Author:  Sir Sam [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Another 2.8L swap article from Diesel Power Mag
blake1827 wrote:
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/general/0811dp_jeep_diesel_engine_swap/index.html

interesting note:
Sourcing Parts Globally
In the U.K. they call their junkyards breaker yards. The 2.5L VM Motori is externally the same as the pre-2007 2.8L that went into this Wrangler conversion. Since Jeep Grand and XJ Cherokees both came with the 2.5L stock in other parts of the world, this means the parts exist. Used Jeeps with five-speed manual transmissions and diesel engines are selling for less than $2,000 in Europe. At that price one could purchase the whole vehicle and ship it to the U.S. Once here it would just be a matter of bolting the different powertrains and electrical systems in place. Another option is buying the parts from an '05 or '06 Jeep Liberty that was sold in the U.S. with the 2.8L.

Also note they stuck w/ the OEM Mopar fuel filter setup, looks like someone hasn't being reading L.O.S.T.... :roll:


there is a whole slew of other problems involved with importing a vehicle.

Not to mention the older 2.5 in the XJ doesn't hold a candle to either the 2.5 or 2.8 in the KJ.
Author:  blake1827 [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Another 2.8L swap article from Diesel Power Mag
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/gene ... index.html

interesting note:
Sourcing Parts Globally
In the U.K. they call their junkyards breaker yards. The 2.5L VM Motori is externally the same as the pre-2007 2.8L that went into this Wrangler conversion. Since Jeep Grand and XJ Cherokees both came with the 2.5L stock in other parts of the world, this means the parts exist. Used Jeeps with five-speed manual transmissions and diesel engines are selling for less than $2,000 in Europe. At that price one could purchase the whole vehicle and ship it to the U.S. Once here it would just be a matter of bolting the different powertrains and electrical systems in place. Another option is buying the parts from an '05 or '06 Jeep Liberty that was sold in the U.S. with the 2.8L.

Also note they stuck w/ the OEM Mopar fuel filter setup, looks like someone hasn't being reading L.O.S.T.... :roll:
Author:  yakers [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:52 am ]
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From page two of the article: "The tank needs a larger diameter filler hose and proper sized fuel lines going from the in-tank lift pump to the engine and back." So what in tank lift pump is being used on these Jeeps and would it work on our KJ?
Author:  Sir Sam [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:56 am ]
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yakers wrote:
From page two of the article: "The tank needs a larger diameter filler hose and proper sized fuel lines going from the in-tank lift pump to the engine and back." So what in tank lift pump is being used on these Jeeps and would it work on our KJ?


The older Bosche CP3 did not have the gear driven lift pump like the US CRDs all have.

Even if you could find that lift pump(which you won't in the US as it is a nonUS part) I doubt it would work.

At any case its hard to imagine a better lift pump solution than the Cummins.
Author:  MrMopar64 [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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I've worked on that car, the engine is a 2.8L wastegated turbo engine. Also, there is no lift pump because I had to drop the tank and fix the fuel system plumbing. The application that the engine was from (the T1) had the gear-driven lift pump built in since the intank pump would've been for priming only.
Author:  geordi [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:48 pm ]
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Speaking of the gear driven lift pump... Is it possible to replace / rebuild that on our CP3 pumps? I had a batch of dodgy diesel get through, and now my CRD is hard to start with cold fuel. As winter is setting in... This is happening anytime the engine is off for more than a couple hours. If the answer is yes, a part number and source would be awesome.

I'm suspecting the low-pressure supply as this is exactly the same kind of thing that happened on my Jetta, after the same basic problem.

Also: Can the gear lift pump be removed without removing the CP3 from the engine? I would REALLY like to avoid a timing job if at all possible. The less I have to screw with removing the whole pump, the happier I would be.
Author:  MrMopar64 [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:38 pm ]
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To the best of my knowledge, the internal lift pump isn't serviced separately and would result in the pump needing to be repaired. Instead of buying a new pump, you can take it to any Bosch-authorized fuel injection service shop to be repaired if possible. I'd try this before buying a new pump.
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