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Author:  mackruss [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Brake Pads
Are the OEM brake pads ceramic :?:

Is there anything special i need to know before i replace my front pads as i'm considering a non OEM part.

Thanks for the advice.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:06 pm ]
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No, they're not ceramic. The reason I know this is because when my brake sqeal was going on, I suggested ceramic to stop it and they said ceramic would chew up the rotors.
Author:  mackruss [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:10 pm ]
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If i match the rotors with the ceramic pads, would it improve the braking, last longer than standard pads, i know i wouldn't get black brake dust on the rims.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:18 pm ]
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It might help braking, but I feel the stock pads are good. My son is just now learning to drive, and he switches between the CRD and a 2007 Mustang GT that we have. He feels the brakes on the GT are softer and not as reponsive as the CRD. I am getting ready to bleed the CRD brakes and flush the moisture laden old stuff out of there. We'll see if that makes a noticable difference.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:21 pm ]
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Actually OEM KJ front pads are ceramic matched to soft metal rotors.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:26 pm ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
Actually OEM KJ front pads are ceramic matched to soft metal rotors.




That is news to me. However, the sqeal noise they were working on was coming from the back.
Author:  mackruss [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:31 pm ]
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Are the rear pads ceramic TJKJ2002
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:31 pm ]
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BVCRD wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
Actually OEM KJ front pads are ceramic matched to soft metal rotors.




That is news to me. However, the sqeal noise they were working on was coming from the back.
Guess others haven't heard of brake pad lube,need to use it on the mount slides and pad slides also in addition to the back of pads and 99% of the squealing will disappear.Most times when breaks are squealing it is because they are dry as is the pad slides,the other times it is the wear indicator rubbing on the rotor or small rocks caught in the pad between the rotor and the pad.

For the rear they need to remove the rotor and clean and adjust the parking brake also if you have rear discs,many forget that the parking brake is back there.
Author:  BVCRD [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:49 pm ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
BVCRD wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
Actually OEM KJ front pads are ceramic matched to soft metal rotors.




That is news to me. However, the sqeal noise they were working on was coming from the back.
Guess others haven't heard of brake pad lube,need to use it on the mount slides and pad slides also in addition to the back of pads and 99% of the squealing will disappear.Most times when breaks are squealing it is because they are dry as is the pad slides,the other times it is the wear indicator rubbing on the rotor or small rocks caught in the pad between the rotor and the pad.

For the rear they need to remove the rotor and clean and adjust the parking brake also if you have rear discs,many forget that the parking brake is back there.






Mine was a pad material thing. It did it from day one as I pulled out of the stealership. It quit as the pads heated up. It usually only did it when the humidity was real high, or the pads had gotten wet. I haven't noticed it for a while now. Just one of those things that you shouldn't have to live with on a new rig.
Author:  Chief BK [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:43 pm ]
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Supposing I wanted to use Titanium/Kevlar pads...will they hurt the rotors at all or should I just stick with a good set of ceramics?
I had kicked the idea of doing pads and rotors to get better braking. IF I decide to do rotors also....slotted, drilled, both or plain? Any recommendations?
Author:  jinstall [ Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 pm ]
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I used Ferodo OEM replacements fro the rear and they just started sqealing about 6 months after the change. I just ordered EBC Yellow Stuff race compound pads for the front and when I do the front I plan on cleaning the rears and re-lubing everythign again. I also will clean the rims on the inside as well and add a coat of wax to them to keep down on brake dust. I will clean the calipers as well and maybe hit them with a coat of flat black grill paint to keep things clean. Oh and the rotors are from DBA slotted only.
Author:  mackruss [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:46 am ]
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jinstall wrote:
I used Ferodo OEM replacements fro the rear and they just started sqealing about 6 months after the change. I just ordered EBC Yellow Stuff race compound pads for the front and when I do the front I plan on cleaning the rears and re-lubing everythign again. I also will clean the rims on the inside as well and add a coat of wax to them to keep down on brake dust. I will clean the calipers as well and maybe hit them with a coat of flat black grill paint to keep things clean. Oh and the rotors are from DBA slotted only.


Forgive my ignorance here but were the Ferodo rears ceramic and what compound are the EBC's, Ferodo i can get quite easily and not from the dealer.
Author:  jinstall [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:21 pm ]
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Sorry I missed this reply.

No they are the "normal" pads but very grippy on the Ferodo's. The Jeep feels more balanced when I brake under normal braking.

EBC that are on the way are Yellows. The DBA rotors are at the house and waiting for the pads to show. About $450 for all delivered tot eh house. If I am lucky I might have them on Sunday or the following weekend. Once I get them all together then I can snap some photos.
Author:  jinstall [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:35 pm ]
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From Ferodo:

Every time you apply your brakes you need to stop quickly, effectively and safely in all conditions. That's why you should insist on the exacting Original Equipment standards of FERODO.

While many manufacturers rely on just a few friction materials, we use over 50+ material formulations to guarantee a perfect match to each vehicle's braking technology and comply fully with OE homologation standards. No-one knows more about braking technology than FERODO, because unlike most we make what we sell. Which is why virtually all the world' s motor manufacturers specify FERODO as Original Equipment.
All our pads are R90 compliant and go through extensive research, development and road testing to guarantee safe, controlled and consistent braking.
In tests FERODO Premier brake pads achieved average stopping distances up to a remarkable 23 metres earlier than a leading competitor. For details of the performace tests click here.




Always insist on FERODO brake pads by name

You can be confident Ferodo brake pads will stop safely time after time

Friction materials are matched to braking systems

Greatly exceeds Regulation 90 specification

Full ABS compatibility (also TCS, EBD. ASC etc.)

Resistance to brake fade from -30c to 700c

Designed to minimise brake noise

Minimum bedding-in period

Reduced disc wear

Excellent fade resistance and water recovery characteristics

Fitted as original equipment on a wide range of cars and vans

Safety critical accessories included

Designed to complement FERODO brake shoes-fit together for safe,
consistent braking

15000 mile / 12 month guarantee
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