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| Author: | Sir Sam [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:05 am ] |
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How about you remove your intercooler, clean it, and retest? |
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:10 am ] |
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Sam. When I had my jetta TDI some were using dish washing detergent and filling the intercooler with water in place just removing the hoses. Of course being carefull to remove all water. Would that be an effective methode on our CRD's? Never mine! Both hoses are on the top so it would be impossable to drain it Joe |
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| Author: | ribbon [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:28 am ] |
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do it right and remove it. You don't want to leave any detergent in there. |
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| Author: | Cowpie1 [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:23 pm ] |
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Anyone considered a pressure test on the CAC to see if there is much of a drop in 15 seconds to see if the turbo is having to work harder to keep pressure up? CAC pressure loss would cause decrease in mpg as well. |
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| Author: | vtdog [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:04 pm ] |
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Not being a gear head, or engineer I have no idea what the % of thermal effeciency really means. I assume that there must be some "standard" for comparison or some way of comparing our jeep's results to those of similar type engines. So, what I am asking is what does the test show: good or bad results? 69% seems low, but I have no foundation for comparison. |
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| Author: | gmctd [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:03 pm ] |
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Good tests - more with comparison ac on\ac off - type J tc's will indicate to over 1800*F - type K has wider range, is usually used for engine For those with scantools, oil temp, water temp, fuel temp, intake air temp, intake manifold air temp are all available - only compressor out and EGT is lacking Generally speaking, only time you'll see ambient out is idling - any temp rise there is ac condenser and underhood heat - outlet temps within 30* of ambient is considered efficient, incl smaller vehicles with little frontal area - only the big-rigs have enuff real estate for a cac without an ac condenser crammed in front of it - only way to improve this is water-air, or spray-misting, as mentioned, incl injection-misting - but then you need reservoirs for the liquids, + you need to constantly maintain the ph levels in the H20 tanks - easiest method to reduce cac outlet temps with out costing a bunch is turn off the ac |
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| Author: | CATCRD [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:14 pm ] |
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I would like to take my intercooler out and clean it, but I stopped at the step in the service manual where it said to purge the A/C lines. I didn't try to find a workaround for that and was not that interested at the time. Fluke specifies a 500ºF ceiling for these probes, so that's what I stuck to. 80+ % efficiency is pretty good, but at full load the system is lacking a little. Not a bad tradeoff though, since little time is spent there. At 300+ degree output temps it's no wonder DC redesigned the hot side hose. |
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| Author: | gmctd [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:01 pm ] |
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That 500* ceiling could be due to the probe construction, incl sheathing material such as plastics, so it's prolly wise to heed the suggestion FYI: you can pick up new hi-temp type K probes from Omega for ~16 bucks, same probes most vendors use in their pyrometer sets - |
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| Author: | CATCRD [ Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
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gmctd wrote: For those with scantools, oil temp, water temp, fuel temp, intake air temp, intake manifold air temp are all available - only compressor out and EGT is lacking
I didn't know oil temp was visible to scan tools. As far as I know trans temp isn't, even though we have an idiot light for it. |
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