Just wondering...

onthehunt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:42 pm

I'm running out of options.

gmctd · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:53 pm

This is why I buy tools, whatever the cost..............

onthehunt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:57 pm

Yeah, me too....

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:40 pm

Am I borrowing or letting borrow?

onthehunt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:55 pm

Letting borrow...

Silverdiesel · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:13 am

I have zero tools borrowed and or lent out.
I do not ever lend tools-If you need a tool I, myself would be part of the deal as I will gladly help you with me using my tools to lend a hand on your project/problem---

Glend · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:13 am

"Neither a borrower or lender be", to quote my old methodist upbringing.

BlackLibertyCRD · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:49 am

I have a very old sticker on my toolbox.

I make my living with
SNAP-ON tools
Please don't ask
borrow them!

gmctd · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:44 am

I think it may have been Onthehunt that outbid me for the KJ timing belt tools on eBay - I subesequently harbored evil thoughts against the winning bidder for a while ( a pox on you, poltroon!), till I saw his post here noting acquisition of same and offering to lend the tools to members attempting the task - whereupon I sheepishly swallowed my resentment, tho wondering at someone brave enuff to lend expensive tools to others, sight unseen, and not even in the same neighborhood (tho neighbors are the worst offenders when it comes to property rights) - while this doesn't help in the recovery of his tools, if that was him, it may help by explaining the sudden rash he got in his nether-most regions at that time.....................

linewarbr · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:10 am

I selected one week, but I wouldn't even keep them that long. I have only borrowed tools from my dad and a neighboring gearhead. My dad's, I bring back when I go visit him - usually one week - but my neighbor's I cleaned and returned same day. He lent me a floor jack, hose pliers, and a filter wrench which were returned to him duly and in better condition than which they were lent. "Do unto others. . . "

Speaking of that, I need to get a lift kit. Then I won't need a floor jack. . . .

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:25 am

Silverdiesel wrote:

I have zero tools borrowed and or lent out.
I do not ever lend tools-If you need a tool I, myself would be part of the deal as I will gladly help you with me using my tools to lend a hand on your project/problem---

X2

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:26 pm

You pay for the tool, and get your money back when you return it in good condition.
Somehow money up front helps people remember there obligations.

dog_party · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:34 pm

In my entire life I have loaned out 2 tools. Those stupid mistakes were made years ago. I have never seen the tools again and will never loan tools out again.

I'm with Silverdiesel and Joe Romas, I'll come help with a project and we can use my tools, but all my tools will be back in my toolboxes by the end of the night. Even if it's a multi-day project, I will not even leave my tools at the project site. They will be back in my garage that night.

So, since "Heck no!" was not an option, I selected "One Week" in the poll.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:00 pm

I have a healthy collection of tools as well, probably bordering on excessive for most people. (Does at least 4 consumer ratchet sets count as excessive?) as well as 3 full rolling chests worth of other stuff. Would I lend them out? Maybe, since I do have a fair bit of duplication, due to having breakdowns and not having tools nearby. But if it was something more than basic ratchets / hand tools... I'm with the guys that go WITH their tools.

I'll be happy to help out, and I'm cheap - pay me in pizza, cola and rum (mixed is ok too!) and lets get the job done. But leave the expensive stuff laying around or loaned out? No, sorry. I wouldn't ask to borrow them either. Neither a borrower nor a lender be... Words to live by.

Besides, tools are infinitely underpriced when you consider that you can continue using them LONG after that one project is over. Thats why I ALWAYS buy the Heavy-duty versions. Ridgid for power tools, or Dewalt... Husqvarna... Craftsman... You get the idea.

kjfishman · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:41 pm

I had someone borrow some tools and bring them back 2 years later. I told them apparently you had them this long you might as well keep them.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:43 pm

...that were given to me by relatives who passed on. My shoulder still hurts.
Some of these tools are the ones I loan, but not my good stuff to fix my vehicles.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:55 pm

Actually, inheriting is how I have a great many tools that were added to my collection, all from my grandfather. Some of these are classic design hand tools that you will never see again outside of a museum... And ALL are sentimental to me for obvious reasons. Those will never be loaned or mistreated.

kdlewis1975 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:23 pm

As one of my chemistry professors used to say when someone asked him a question..."It depends."

onthehunt definitely should have his tools returned.

A reasonable time of loan could include many factors...job to be done, trustworthiness of borrower, other things going on in ones life, and likelihood of need the tool soon.

I suspect that when it's time to do the timing belt change, and if I do it myself, it might take a couple of weekends to get everything apart since it would be the first time of disassembling the various components due to much staring and careful thought. ...and then more time for putting it back together. Because I'd only have weekends and there's shipping time in there...not quite the same was getting them from across the street in this case.... It still should be less than a month though.

That individual could have had a life event that lead to the failure to return said tools in a timely manner. For example, my wife just spent two weeks in the hospital with 80% of that time in the ICU (she's home and doing well now). I can tell you with going to work for some critical things, taking care of the 4 dogs (each of us had 2 prior to marriage), keeping the parrot alive, taking care of our 7-month old daughter, and going to visit my wife...I feel as if I had 2 weeks of my life disappear and I have little recollection of it. ...so I'd probably be late in getting them returned in this case.

onthehunt...hopefully the borrower returns them soon. Like the rest of you, I'm leery of loaning things like this out too, especially if it's someone I don't know.

onthehunt · **Posted:** Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:51 pm

The tools are on the way back. I will consider this issue closed when I have the tools in my hand. It was a learning experience.

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