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Author:  flman [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:30 am ]
Post subject:  CRD survival kit
With the uniqueness of our vehicles, and the lack of road side service, other then a tow truck. Just wondering what type of survival supplies and tools should be carried in our Jeeps? Why is it needed? I will start the list, you all add as needed.

1 Duct Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Tool kit
6 ?
Author:  Glend [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
I would suggest "Rescue Tape" instead of Duct Tape as it can be used for many other purposes than Duct and is far more capable in pressure situations and in managing hot liquids (say like a cracked transmission cooler line). I carry two rolls of Rescue Tape. I also carry a 4mm allen key to remove the Boost Control Sensor (aka MAP sensor), and a small can of spray contact cleaner. On touring trips I carry a spare serpentine belt as well.
Author:  flman [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
Glend wrote:
I would suggest "Rescue Tape" instead of Duct Tape as it can be used for many other purposes than Duct and is far more capable in pressure situations and in managing hot liquids (say like a cracked transmission cooler line). I carry two rolls of Rescue Tape. I also carry a 4mm allen key to remove the Boost Control Sensor (aka MAP sensor), and a small can of spray contact cleaner. On touring trips I carry a spare serpentine belt as well.


OK, cut and paste the list and add it on as I did. Thanks for the suggestions.

1 Rescue or Duct Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Tool kit with metric allen keys
6 Contact Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
Author:  shaggyislandboy [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
flman wrote:
OK, cut and paste the list and add it on as I did. Thanks for the suggestions.

1 Rescue or Duct Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Tool kit with metric allen keys
6 Contact Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
Author:  CATCRD [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
shaggyislandboy wrote:
flman wrote:
OK, cut and paste the list and add it on as I did. Thanks for the suggestions.

1 Rescue or Duct Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Tool kit with metric allen keys
6 Contact Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
10 Nitrile gloves



I always have 2 pair of the blue nitrile gloves in my glove compartment in case I need to change a fuel filter.

The 11mm wrench is vital, but hopefully already included in the metric tool kit.
Author:  Drewd [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
1 Rescue or Duct Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Tool kit with metric allen keys
6 Contact Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website

Diesel 911
100 count of disposable plastic gloves for refueling (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20373
Tow rope (wife even got in habit of towing stuck vehicles...she pulled out a stuck 2wd F-150 last winter with Libby)
Author:  geordi [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
Now that is a good woman! Keep that one around, car / Jeep females are a RARE species indeed.

1 Rescue Tape or Gorilla Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses OR Home Depot "Silicone Stretch and Seal" Tape in the plumbing section.
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Home Depot Husky Stubby Tool kit with SAE and metric sockets
6 Contact Cleaner or Brake Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 4mm allen socket for the MAP sensor (buy it separately in Home Depot, better value)
10 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
11 Diesel 911
12 Winch or come-along and tow chain
13 Nitrile Glove box from Home Depot
14 Socket extension set from Home Depot

Stretch and Seal tape is a good alternative, SAME STUFF as Rescue tape, less than half the cost. ($10 per 10' roll in Pilot station, $6 for 15' at HD)
The trick with either S&S or the rescue tape is to install it properly. I didn't the first time, b/c the directions on the HD tape aren't as precise as on the RT package. REALLY STRETCH IT to about double than the section you are pulling started as... It seals much tighter then, and overlap a LOT, like 50% on each wrap. You cannot reposition it after about 3-5 seconds of contact with itself, so be slow and careful wrapping it. But it works GREAT. Once it seals... THATS IT, permanent-like fix.
Author:  bugnout [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
1 Rescue Tape or Gorilla Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses OR Home Depot "Silicone Stretch and Seal" Tape in the plumbing section.
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Home Depot Husky Stubby Tool kit with SAE and metric sockets
6 Contact Cleaner or Brake Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 4mm allen socket for the MAP sensor (buy it separately in Home Depot, better value)
10 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
11 Diesel 911
12 Winch or come-along and tow chain
13 Nitrile Glove box from Home Depot
14 Socket extension set from Home Depot
15 Quart of ATF+4 for tranny and power steering

I think the extra fuel filter, quart of syn oil and quart of ATF+4 are probably the things I would want to have in a minimum kit. Although Wally world has the last two, I can't tell you how many times I've looked for them and they have been out.
Author:  stoutdog [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
1 Rescue Tape or Gorilla Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses OR Home Depot "Silicone Stretch and Seal" Tape in the plumbing section.
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Home Depot Husky Stubby Tool kit with SAE and metric sockets
6 Contact Cleaner or Brake Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 4mm allen socket for the MAP sensor (buy it separately in Home Depot, better value)
10 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
11 Diesel 911
12 Winch or come-along and tow chain
13 Nitrile Glove box from Home Depot
14 Socket extension set from Home Depot
15 Quart of ATF+4 for tranny and power steering
16 Jumper Cables
17 Fuel Filter Wrench
18 Shop Rags (2)

16 - I know that we can't really be jumped, unless there is another diesel around, but sometimes I feel nice and want to help out our poor gasser friends :-)r
17 & 18 - should be fairly obvious
Author:  geordi [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
Why can't we be jumped? I've done that just fine with mine, when my battery accidentally drained overnight from an accessory left on.

As a matter of fact, I jumped it from my MOTORCYCLE's power.
Author:  stoutdog [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
geordi wrote:
Why can't we be jumped? I've done that just fine with mine, when my battery accidentally drained overnight from an accessory left on.

As a matter of fact, I jumped it from my MOTORCYCLE's power.

Maybe the CRDs are different, or maybe my father is wrong, but I've always heard that diesels require more power to start than a gasser. Supposedly (so I've been told, but appear to be wrong) gasser batteries are not powerful enough to start up a diesel, but the opposite does work... maybe this only applied to my Cummins Dodge, not the little CRD. :dizzy:
Author:  geordi [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
It could be a cummins thing, but what size is the battery in the cummins? Ours is a Group 34 battery, preferably 800 CCA or above. Any large V8 engine is going to have a battery that big, gas or diesel. In jumping a car, it also isn't about the size of the supply engine / alternator. A smaller supply will just take longer to push enough amperage to the dead battery, but it WILL eventually charge the dead one. You couldn't ever hope to pull enough raw amperage through a set of jumper cables to actually START an engine, the power loss in the cables and the length work against that.
Author:  JL Rockies [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
diesel trucks can be equipped with two batts; if they both go dead, it's hard to get enough juice to it.
Author:  stoutdog [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
geordi wrote:
It could be a cummins thing, but what size is the battery in the cummins? Ours is a Group 34 battery, preferably 800 CCA or above. Any large V8 engine is going to have a battery that big, gas or diesel. In jumping a car, it also isn't about the size of the supply engine / alternator. A smaller supply will just take longer to push enough amperage to the dead battery, but it WILL eventually charge the dead one. You couldn't ever hope to pull enough raw amperage through a set of jumper cables to actually START an engine, the power loss in the cables and the length work against that.

Not sure what size... I sold it in September. Alls I know is what I was told :?

Either way, back on topic, jumper cables should be on the list. I can't think of anything else...
Author:  VMKJCRD [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
wooow come on guys. did we all forget about the flash light?

1 Rescue Tape or Gorilla Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses OR Home Depot "Silicone Stretch and Seal" Tape in the plumbing section.
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Home Depot Husky Stubby Tool kit with SAE and metric sockets
6 Contact Cleaner or Brake Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 4mm allen socket for the MAP sensor (buy it separately in Home Depot, better value)
10 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
11 Diesel 911
12 Winch or come-along and tow chain
13 Nitrile Glove box from Home Depot
14 Socket extension set from Home Depot
15 Quart of ATF+4 for tranny and power steering
16 Jumper Cables
17 Fuel Filter Wrench
18 Shop Rags (2)
19 Flash light
20 Toilet paper :mrgreen: Never happened to me but i heard some funny storys about guys going home with no underwear or just one sock!
Author:  rjmaype [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
I own a Ford Powerstroke 7.3 L diesel.

It comes with two batteries standard equipment.

I think it was a group 24 battery around 800 CCA also.

Block heater is also standard.

The best practice is to run full synthetic oil.

I have jumped it once with the Liberty, then drove it to get new batteries.
Author:  stoutdog [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
VMKJCRD wrote:
wooow come on guys. did we all forget about the flash light?

20 Toilet paper :mrgreen: Never happened to me but i heard some funny storys about guys going home with no underwear or just one sock!

:banghead: and :ROTFL:

1 Rescue Tape or Gorilla Tape, for blown turbo charge air hoses OR Home Depot "Silicone Stretch and Seal" Tape in the plumbing section.
2 Spare fuel filter
3 OBDII reader
4 Quart of your favorite oil
5 Home Depot Husky Stubby Tool kit with SAE and metric sockets
6 Contact Cleaner or Brake Cleaner
7 Serpentine Belt
8 11mm wrench to bleed fuel system/prime filter head
9 4mm allen socket for the MAP sensor (buy it separately in Home Depot, better value)
10 Phone or Internet device to access LOST website
11 Diesel 911
12 Winch or come-along and tow chain
13 Nitrile Glove box from Home Depot
14 Socket extension set from Home Depot
15 Quart of ATF+4 for tranny and power steering
16 Jumper Cables
17 Fuel Filter Wrench
18 Shop Rags (2)
19 Flash light
20 Toilet paper Never happened to me but i heard some funny storys about guys going home with no underwear or just one sock!
21 Pocket Knife/Leatherman
Author:  Squeeto [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
This list is fairly mature now so further additions may be scrutinized.
What I am trying to say is that I won't be insulted if you don't add these:

I picked up a nail on a logging road and after putting on the spare, went back to civilization to get it fixed.
No one was open for the weekend and I had 300 miles to go to get home. My buddy (who used to work at a tire shop) said to plug it. Bad idea right? I was always told so. The plug is still good today.

I carry a plug kit. Maybe a 12v compressor would be a good idea too.



I have a few bulbs in the glove compartment and the wife carries cloth shopping bags and an umbrella.
Cosco emergency kit.
The tire wrench is fairly ornamental if the last yahoo impacted the nuts.
Author:  ac5501 [ Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
I got one...

How about a spare CRD. Just tow it around behind you and your covered no matter what :frankie:
Author:  geordi [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CRD survival kit
Squeeto wrote:
This list is fairly mature now so further additions may be scrutinized.
What I am trying to say is that I won't be insulted if you don't add these:

I picked up a nail on a logging road and after putting on the spare, went back to civilization to get it fixed.
No one was open for the weekend and I had 300 miles to go to get home. My buddy (who used to work at a tire shop) said to plug it. Bad idea right? I was always told so. The plug is still good today.

I carry a plug kit. Maybe a 12v compressor would be a good idea too.



I have a few bulbs in the glove compartment and the wife carries cloth shopping bags and an umbrella.
Cosco emergency kit.
The tire wrench is fairly ornamental if the last yahoo impacted the nuts.



I'm a BIG fan of those black 'licorice stick' tire plugs. They self-vulcanize (seal) to the tire, and make a permanent seal in the hole. I've run for the full life of a tire with those in it, no problems or leaks at all.

Matter of fact, I had an RV tire at one point that had 5 different plugs in it. Crappy construction site, I think somebody threw a box of roofing nails onto the roadway. For a $300 tire, I'm gonna try plugging it FIRST before sinking that kinda cash into a new one. As long as the tire's structure is sound, those plugs should be good for the duration.
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