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I've also been thinking about trying to use a "high end" atf the hemi guys have been using all of the major big one's, red line Amsoil, RP, etc, in their 545rfe's and things have been fine.

That said valvoline atf+4 is a high quality and affordable fluid, and it's what i use.

Also Wall mart Super tech atf+4 is a good fluid.

The thing is that the aft+4 spec is licensed and they all have the exact same add package and have to meet the same requirements, so in theory, one is as good as another.

However you cant argue that the same add pack in a better base oil group, PAO, ESTERS and group 3 hydro-cracked for example, Have to be better than "normal" atf +4 that has a group 2 and 3/3+ base oil.

Yeah, i should have mentioned that.

Amsoil http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx claims atf+4 But is NOT LICENSED
RP http://www.royalpurple.com/transmission-fluid.html MAX ATF claims atf+4 But again, NOT LICENSED
REDLINE http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=53&pcid=9 C+ Is recommended for atf +4 NOT LICENSED

I would use ether of these fluids with out a problem. I dont think they can be worse than the oem FACTORY Mopar/Valvoline atf +4
There are various threads all over the internet for their use in 545rfe's in RACING applications.

I think they are all great fluids. We do have a Amsoil site supporter, bty.

AUTOMOTIVE

• GM DEXRON® III-H
• Ford MERCON® & MERCON V
• Chrysler ATF+4®
• Toyota Type T-III and T-IV
• Honda Z-1 (Not CVT)
• Diamond SP II & III (Mitsubishi/Hyundai/Kia)
• Mazda ATF-III, ATF-MV
• Subaru ATF, ATF-HP
• Nissan Matic D, J & K
• BMW LA2634
• Audi G-052-025-A2 & G-052-162-A1
• Volvo 97340
• MB 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.6, 236.7, 236.9 & 236.10
• NAG 1
• JWS 3309
• LT 71141
• Idemitsu K-17
• Mopar AS68RC
• ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B & N402

HEAVY-DUTY, ON- and OFF-ROAD

• Allison C-4, TES 389
• ZF TE-ML 03D, 04D, 09, 14A, 14B, 14C, 16L, 17C
• Voith 55.6335.XX (G607, G1363)

Allison: C-4, TES-295, TES-389 arrowMax ATF

Audi G-052-025-A2 arrowMax ATF

Automatic Transmission Type ‘H’ ATF arrowSynchromax

BMW: LA2634, LT71141 arrowMax ATF

Chrysler: ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4 arrowMax ATF

Ford: MERCON, MERCON V arrowMax ATF

GM 9986195 arrowMax ATF

GM: DEXRON, DEXRON-II, DEXRON-IID, DEXRON-IIIG, DEXRON-IIIH arrowMax ATF

Honda ATF-Z1 (except in CVT's) arrowMax ATF

Hyundai: SP-II, SP-III arrowMax ATF

JWS 3309 arrowMax ATF

KIA: SP-II, SP-III arrowMax ATF

MAN 339F arrowMax ATF

Mercedes Benz 236.x arrowMax ATF

Mitsubishi Diamond: SP-11, SP-III arrowMax ATF

Nissan: Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K arrowMax ATF

Subaru ATF - HP arrowMax ATF

Toyota Type: T, T-III, T-IV arrowMax ATF

Voith: 55.6335.3x (G607), H55.6336.3x (G1363) arrowMax ATF

Volvo: 97340 (Construction Equipment), 4-6 Speed AT arrowMax ATF

VW TL52162 arrowMax ATF

ZF: TE-ML 14B, TE-ML 16L, TE-ML 17C arrowMax ATF

I've used it in other vehicles that I've owned. I like it and it does seem to keep the trans temp down. I'm going to use it in the CRD on my next change (which will be as soon as I can afford about 10 quarts of it).lol I'm also going to go with RP for the diffs and trans case.

As a comparison I used to run Amsoil oil in my VTX 1300 motorcycle. Replaced it with 0w-40 full syn mobil run in my CRD and I felt that I had about a 10% increase in horsepower. I also read of mechanics rebuilding engines some with regular oil and some with full synthetic. They reported that even though both were changed regularly the cam lobes with the dino oil had striation marks while the one with the full syn looked like a mirror. I am sure the same would relate to our trannies. Moral of the story is that I am going full synthetic on everything and within manufacturers recommendation. The fluids have never been better. Good luck.

MechE

Im an Amsoil guy but Im not running anything other than whats OK'D for my transmission.

TJ, any suggestions as to what youre running in your trans?

Author:	baddabing [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:32 am ]
Post subject:	Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
Hey Guys, There's 46,000k on the clock, thinking about changing the trans fluid along with the diffs and transfer case. Has anyone out there used Royal Purple ATF? Royal Purple must of recently met the ATF+4 requirements for Chrysler / Jeeps products. I know they didn't meet the requirements a couple years ago. How many litres / quarts does the trans take? http://www.royalpurple.com/transmission-fluid.html Interesting video on their royal Purple oil filters http://www.royalpurple.com/ click the video

Author:	RTStabler51 [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:53 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
I'm running their stuff in my diffs, and will put their ATF in the trans next go around but haven't yet.

Author:	CRDMiller [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
I've also been thinking about trying to use a "high end" atf the hemi guys have been using all of the major big one's, red line Amsoil, RP, etc, in their 545rfe's and things have been fine. That said valvoline atf+4 is a high quality and affordable fluid, and it's what i use. Also Wall mart Super tech atf+4 is a good fluid. The thing is that the aft+4 spec is licensed and they all have the exact same add package and have to meet the same requirements, so in theory, one is as good as another. However you cant argue that the same add pack in a better base oil group, PAO, ESTERS and group 3 hydro-cracked for example, Have to be better than "normal" atf +4 that has a group 2 and 3/3+ base oil.

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
CRDMiller wrote: I've also been thinking about trying to use a "high end" atf the hemi guys have been using all of the major big one's, red line Amsoil, RP, etc, in their 545rfe's and things have been fine. That said valvoline atf+4 is a high quality and affordable fluid, and it's what i use. Also Wall mart Super tech atf+4 is a good fluid. The thing is that the aft+4 spec is licensed and they all have the exact same add package and have to meet the same requirements, so in theory, one is as good as another. However you cant argue that the same add pack in a better base oil group, PAO, ESTERS and group 3 hydro-cracked for example, Have to be better than "normal" atf +4 that has a group 2 and 3/3+ base oil. Amsoil is not speced for your trans,might want to stay away from it along with redline ATF.

Author:	CRDMiller [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
Yeah, i should have mentioned that. Amsoil http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx claims atf+4 But is NOT LICENSED RP http://www.royalpurple.com/transmission-fluid.html MAX ATF claims atf+4 But again, NOT LICENSED REDLINE http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=53&pcid=9 C+ Is recommended for atf +4 NOT LICENSED I would use ether of these fluids with out a problem. I dont think they can be worse than the oem FACTORY Mopar/Valvoline atf +4 There are various threads all over the internet for their use in 545rfe's in RACING applications. I think they are all great fluids. We do have a Amsoil site supporter, bty.

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Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:56 pm ]
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CRDMiller wrote: Yeah, i should have mentioned that. Amsoil http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx claims atf+4 But is NOT LICENSED RP http://www.royalpurple.com/transmission-fluid.html MAX ATF claims atf+4 But again, NOT LICENSED REDLINE http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=53&pcid=9 C+ Is recommended for atf +4 NOT LICENSED I would use ether of these fluids with out a problem. I dont think they can be worse than the oem FACTORY Mopar/Valvoline atf +4 There are various threads all over the internet for their use in 545rfe's in RACING applications. I think they are all great fluids. We do have a Amsoil site supporter, bty. Amsoil......... Quote: AUTOMOTIVE • GM DEXRON® III-H • Ford MERCON® & MERCON V • Chrysler ATF+4® • Toyota Type T-III and T-IV • Honda Z-1 (Not CVT) • Diamond SP II & III (Mitsubishi/Hyundai/Kia) • Mazda ATF-III, ATF-MV • Subaru ATF, ATF-HP • Nissan Matic D, J & K • BMW LA2634 • Audi G-052-025-A2 & G-052-162-A1 • Volvo 97340 • MB 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.6, 236.7, 236.9 & 236.10 • NAG 1 • JWS 3309 • LT 71141 • Idemitsu K-17 • Mopar AS68RC • ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B & N402 HEAVY-DUTY, ON- and OFF-ROAD • Allison C-4, TES 389 • ZF TE-ML 03D, 04D, 09, 14A, 14B, 14C, 16L, 17C • Voith 55.6335.XX (G607, G1363) RP.............. Quote: Allison: C-4, TES-295, TES-389 arrowMax ATF Audi G-052-025-A2 arrowMax ATF Automatic Transmission Type ‘H’ ATF arrowSynchromax BMW: LA2634, LT71141 arrowMax ATF Chrysler: ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4 arrowMax ATF Ford: MERCON, MERCON V arrowMax ATF GM 9986195 arrowMax ATF GM: DEXRON, DEXRON-II, DEXRON-IID, DEXRON-IIIG, DEXRON-IIIH arrowMax ATF Honda ATF-Z1 (except in CVT's) arrowMax ATF Hyundai: SP-II, SP-III arrowMax ATF JWS 3309 arrowMax ATF KIA: SP-II, SP-III arrowMax ATF MAN 339F arrowMax ATF Mercedes Benz 236.x arrowMax ATF Mitsubishi Diamond: SP-11, SP-III arrowMax ATF Nissan: Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K arrowMax ATF Subaru ATF - HP arrowMax ATF Toyota Type: T, T-III, T-IV arrowMax ATF Voith: 55.6335.3x (G607), H55.6336.3x (G1363) arrowMax ATF Volvo: 97340 (Construction Equipment), 4-6 Speed AT arrowMax ATF VW TL52162 arrowMax ATF ZF: TE-ML 14B, TE-ML 16L, TE-ML 17C arrowMax ATF See something similar? One ATF can not meet all those requirements for all those transmissions,not possible since more then half have different additive packages. Oh and "racing apps" are drastically different then real world daily driving.

Author:	baddabing [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
I see the point that one oil can't meet all requirements to all manufacturers. That did cross my mind. On the other hand I do agree with CRD Miller that, I can't see an oil like RP or Amsoil being worse than the factory OEM. You would think that companies (RP+Amsoil) that mention that they meet specs like ATF+4, would be very careful before putting that on thier lables, so it doesn't come back and bit them in *ss. We / me could always call RP tech support line and talk to one of their engineers and ask them about RP ATF being used in an application that calls for ATF+4 and see what they say. I called them a couple years back and asked them about diff fluids in a Dodge diesel, they were very helpful! This is sort of related but not really.....I was talking to a rep for Allison heavy duty transmissons (for heavy trucks) last week. He was saying that the new series Allison trans have reduced their warranty claims by 70% with better quality contol in manufacturing, but the biggest reason why the warranty claims dropped was do to the synthetic transmission fluid. He was saying that trans oil changes can go 3 times longer.

Author:	TennesseeCRD [ Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
I've used it in other vehicles that I've owned. I like it and it does seem to keep the trans temp down. I'm going to use it in the CRD on my next change (which will be as soon as I can afford about 10 quarts of it).lol I'm also going to go with RP for the diffs and trans case.

Author:	baddabing [ Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
TennesseeCRD wrote: I've used it in other vehicles that I've owned. I like it and it does seem to keep the trans temp down. I'm going to use it in the CRD on my next change (which will be as soon as I can afford about 10 quarts of it).lol I'm also going to go with RP for the diffs and trans case. I pretty much run RP in everything, including my John Deere diesel lawn tractor. I was planning on putting in RP in the diffs and transfer case too. I use Amsoil 5/40 in the engine because RP doesn't make a 0-5 weight oil. The Amsoil is such a pain to get (have to order it). I can buy the RP at my local auto parts retailer whenever I need it.

Author:	MechE [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
As a comparison I used to run Amsoil oil in my VTX 1300 motorcycle. Replaced it with 0w-40 full syn mobil run in my CRD and I felt that I had about a 10% increase in horsepower. I also read of mechanics rebuilding engines some with regular oil and some with full synthetic. They reported that even though both were changed regularly the cam lobes with the dino oil had striation marks while the one with the full syn looked like a mirror. I am sure the same would relate to our trannies. Moral of the story is that I am going full synthetic on everything and within manufacturers recommendation. The fluids have never been better. Good luck. MechE

Author:	CRD Joe [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:05 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
Im an Amsoil guy but Im not running anything other than whats OK'D for my transmission. TJ, any suggestions as to what youre running in your trans?

Author:	RJM [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:46 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Anyone tried Royal Purple ATF ?
MechE wrote: As a comparison I used to run Amsoil oil in my VTX 1300 motorcycle. Replaced it with 0w-40 full syn mobil run in my CRD and I felt that I had about a 10% increase in horsepower. I also read of mechanics rebuilding engines some with regular oil and some with full synthetic. They reported that even though both were changed regularly the cam lobes with the dino oil had striation marks while the one with the full syn looked like a mirror. I am sure the same would relate to our trannies. Moral of the story is that I am going full synthetic on everything and within manufacturers recommendation. The fluids have never been better. Good luck. MechE How do you "feel" the 10% increase? Must call BS on that one!

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:42 am ]
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CRD Joe wrote: Im an Amsoil guy but Im not running anything other than whats OK'D for my transmission. TJ, any suggestions as to what youre running in your trans? Mopar ATF+4,the only thing the dealership get's to touch on my KJ every 15,000miles due to the high cost of a flush machine and the warranty there service gets.

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