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Author:  TennesseeCRD [ Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Shifter issue

Has anyone ever had any issues with the shifter. Seems that mine, when putting it into park, allows the trans to shift into park but the shifter doesn't allow the safety mechanism to engage so I can get the key out. Also I've noticed that there is no reverse lock out. Maybe I am wrong but don't these have a lock out so you don't accidently shift from drive into reverse?
Steve

Author:  dirtmover [ Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issue

Yes, mine broke last summer. You're quite right it's a safety issue so the first thing you need to do is file a report with NHTSA.

The problem is a small plastic two part spring loaded push rod that connects the release trigger on the shifter lever to the mechanism below. The plastic is fragile and breaks resulting in the symptoms you see. The picture shows the upper half of the rod. The small plastic nib on the RHS has broken off the end of the rod. This nib mates with the lower part of the rod, still inside the shifter, and holds the spring under tension. When the nib breaks off, the spring is free to push down and has the same effect as pushing the release button on the shifter lever thus allowing you to freely move it throughout it's entire range without needing to press the trigger.

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Of course you cannot buy this 50c part so you either have to improvise your own fix or drop $$$ on the entire shifter mechanism.

Here is my solution machined from brass so it should last the life of the vehicle

The parts
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...and assembled
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Of course, you could replace with a solid rod. Maybe a chopstick cut to the correct length and do away with the spring altogether. The spring simply allows the rod to "give" if you push the release button on the shifter lever while it is in park and the brake is not applied and thus prevents you from being able to apply too much force to the brake interlock solenoid.

BTW, If you disconnect the interlock cable from the shifter end you will be able to remove the key.

Author:  TennesseeCRD [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issue

Thanks for the pics. At least now I know what to look for. Where do I start? What do I need to take apart to get to this? Thanks,
Steve

Author:  dirtmover [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issue

Directly below the shifter knob. The knob is held on with a set screw in the front, loosen it and the knob lifts off.

Sounds too easy? Yes of course it is :( . The wiring for the OD off button prevents you from doing this so you need to remove the whole frikkin lot. Remove the trim, detach the interlock and shifter cables, disconnect the wiring. The whole assembly can now be removed, 4 screws. There are instructions with pics in the fsm to get you this far. You have downloaded a copy?

You will now need to snip the OD wiring so that you can remove the shifter knob. When you re-assemble later you will need to rejoin these wires so make sure you snip them in a place that makes this possible/easy. You can now remove the set screw and lift the shifter knob off. Turn the whole assembly upside down and the items in my pic will fall out.

Author:  jinstall [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issue

I had just the opposite the shifter would not come out of park. I disconnected the shifter lock and drove around until the dealer could get another one and replace under warranty.

Dirtmover nice work.

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