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| Author: | nescosmo [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
A friend told me that the Mahindra is going to be sold in Texas is that true???. If all fail on my CRD Mahindra diesel Hybrid will be next. |
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| Author: | RRiveraKK [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
It is you can look at their website and be one of the first to test drive if you sign up for it. Here is the Hyperlink http://www.mahindrana.com/ It looks pretty cool if you think of the 30mpg and the CRD engine. |
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| Author: | mikey1273 [ Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:50 pm ] |
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i signed up for a test drive months ago when this was discussed. not heard anything so far |
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| Author: | emp1134 [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
yeah I also signed up almost a year ago, never have heard anything. edit: just did some searching looks like this summer, it is still being certified with the EPA and NHTSA |
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| Author: | Diggerfreek [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:22 am ] |
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The latest I have read is they are hoping for a June release date....... |
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| Author: | vtdog [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:00 pm ] |
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I believe that "Mahindra" is the Indian word for Vaporware. |
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| Author: | flman [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:19 pm ] |
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vtdog wrote: I believe that "Mahindra" is the Indian word for Vaporware. I am not planning on buying one, but I am sure it has alot to do with the EPA and the "Fake Global Warming" BS. I have to go to court with an Indian tomorrow, second one this year, to get paid for my services. You can be sure am not going to send  over to their country.
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| Author: | JL Rockies [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
Thank you come again. |
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| Author: | geordi [ Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:34 pm ] |
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I signed up with them too... And haven't heard word one about it since. Am I holding my breath? Not really. I already have ONE abandonware vehicle, I don't intend on getting a second one, from a company that might ALSO become abandonware. (kinda just like Mopar did... Only worse - Mopar didn't leave the country) |
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
Automotive weekly in the March 29, edition had an article on them. The made for the US version is so different then their current product Mahindra is doing 6 days a week 24 hours 100k mile tesing in the US before they release it for EPA testing. And they are currently looking at a summer 2010 release date. They are thinking they can get safty approval in a month but an offocial there indicates they should not plan on just a month for approval  Just think if Chrysler would have tested our CRD's for 100,000 miles instead of letting us test them  The fellow running Global marketing, the distributor, signed up delers for a diesel powered small pickup then went looking for a product. The first deal with another company fell through then he linked up with Mahindra. The article sounds like Mahindra is a little concerned with the "distributor" relationship. The article claims a payload of 2,765 pounds, towing capacity of 5,000 pounds and fuel economy of 27-30. They compared the 2.2 liter 4 cylinder with a Dakota and Ram 1500 with 3.7L V6 and it out did them in each catagory except towing on the Dakota that was also 5k. |
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| Author: | GreenDieselEngineering [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:21 am ] |
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Mahindra is struggling with passing the DF (deterioration factor) fleet testing. This is mandated by the EPA for any new powertrain and exhaust after-treatment in order to legally sell a vehicle in the states. They certainly will not state this other than 'we are accumulating more durability miles'. The DF fleet is used to determine the factors applied to emission results of a new vehicle to simulate what the emissions would be at 100,000 miles or 150,000 is they choose to certifly to that level. It is also used to determine which components are covered under emission compliance warranty. If the vehicles have a hardware failure during the DF mileage accumulation, it must be documented, fixed and the test restarted at 0 miles or get a variance from the EPA as a service item. Chrysler also had to pass this test with the KJ, but that apparently did not do much good! With all the issues diesel powertains at other OEMs are having with lean-NOx traps, SCR (urea injection) and diesel particulate filters (DPF), it is not a surprise that Mahindra is having difficulties. The powertrain configuration is unique for the States and design iterations are most likely the culprit for delays in the release date. |
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| Author: | onthehunt [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
[quote][/The made for the US version is so different then their current product Mahindra is doing 6 days a week 24 hours 100k mile tesing in the US before they release it for EPA testing.quote] That sounds so familiar.... |
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| Author: | JL Rockies [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
JL Rockies wrote: Thank you come again. Now that's just funny. |
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| Author: | nescosmo [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:08 am ] |
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If Mahindra gets in maybe it will awake ford and others from making electric stupid car and go for the diesel hybrid. who knows it could start a new revolution.
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| Author: | flman [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
JL Rockies wrote: JL Rockies wrote: Thank you come again. Now that's just funny. Is it an inside joke? You are laughing at your own joke? 
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
nescosmo wrote: If Mahindra gets in maybe it will awake ford and others from making electric stupid car and go for the diesel hybrid. who knows it could start a new revolution. I'm old enough to remember reading in Popular Science magazine about a VW 3 cylinder diesel hybrid rabbit they were testing in Germany around 1980. Just think what can be done now with a TDI engine, lithium ion batteries and advanced computer controls that were not available in 1980  .
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| Author: | geordi [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
Joe Romas wrote: nescosmo wrote: If Mahindra gets in maybe it will awake ford and others from making electric stupid car and go for the diesel hybrid. who knows it could start a new revolution. I'm old enough to remember reading in Popular Science magazine about a VW 3 cylinder diesel hybrid rabbit they were testing in Germany around 1980. Just think what can be done now with a TDI engine, lithium ion batteries and advanced computer controls that were not available in 1980 .Pshh. I remember a few years ago (think 2003) that VW was playing with a 3-cyl diesel that managed 1 liter per 100km... 60mpg. Will we get it here? Not a chance. 
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| Author: | LibertyCRD [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:01 pm ] |
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Leave it to the EPA to screw everything up. They force manufacturers to put so much emissions crap on these diesel engines that they end up consuming 50% more fuel...thereby counter-acting any environmental benefit the emissions crap was supposedly installed to prevent in the first place. Government....gotta' love it. If the fools would leave diesels alone we'd all be better off. Less fuel consumed equals less pollution emmitted. |
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| Author: | linewarbr [ Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:02 pm ] |
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JL Rockies wrote: JL Rockies wrote: Thank you come again. Now that's just funny.  I got it. 
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS THE MAHINDRA ALIVE????? |
geordi wrote: Pshh. I remember a few years ago (think 2003) that VW was playing with a 3-cyl diesel that managed 1 liter per 100km... 60mpg. Will we get it here? Not a chance. According to the below link 1 liter to 100km is 235 mpg but it was a prototype  (but I'm not so sure of the math)The production model got 78 mpg and was the Lupo and they did more then play with it  It was available from 1999 till 2005. They did bring a couple here on their around the world tour. They needed to fly in pump grade Shell diesel fuel for them as our crap wouldn't do. They had a support fleet of diesel powered Eurovans that filled up in Texas somewhere and had to make an unscheduled pit stop at a dealer to get their fuel systems cleaned  In Europe there was a prize put up for the first automaker to produce a 100km per liter car. No law demanding a unrealistic CAFE and at the same time requiring the exhaust coming out to be cleaner then the air going in  Smart cars and Lupo's are not for everyone  In my mind VW US has made more then a few mistakes and not bringing over the Lupo was one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo |
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