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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:54 pm 
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I was just wondering why isnt there a large sticky of DIY mods, Performance mods, and just upgrades in gerneral?

I know there are Newb facs and mods but i feel this is insufficient..........

There are a few mods that come up while searching google and so on but I just figured there would be a compiled list of these mods(sticky)......Seems to me they are scattered all over the place on here.

I mean is it just me?

For example Im sure you all know the eurekaboy site....well how about that trans cooler upgrade? I havnt seen it on here....

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So i guess all this would be considered the "tech" section? is so sorry

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So i guess all this would be considered the "tech" section? is so sorry

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Transcooler may be worthwhile, depending on what you are towing... Kapalwhatever's Flex Fan mod may also do the trick :D

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 10:42 pm 
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dieselsmoke wrote:
So i guess all this would be considered the "tech" section? is so sorry

:SOMBRERO:

Transcooler may be worthwhile, depending on what you are towing... Kapalwhatever's Flex Fan mod may also do the trick :D


GO FFF!!!!! Fixed Flex Fan, also can be Fantastic Fan Fix because it cools everything better. :)

See link and pics:

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51618

Part numbers and prices to complete the kit:

**EDIT** You will also need 4 bolts and 4 lock washers. I will get the sizes for you and update tomorrow.

Flex Fan - Imperial Part number 223619 - 19" reverse direction High flow flex fan(Advanced auto - free shipping from local store - $28.99):
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Adapter - Flex-a-lite part number 851 - 30 mm x 1.5 pitch flex fan adapter (Amazon.com - $43.07 - free shipping):
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Washers (used as spacer to allow clearance between engine accessories) - McMaster-Carr part number 93849A112 - (2 needed) (mcmastercarr.com - $4.58 each-2 needed plus shipping cost):
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Total cost about $100. Cheaper than a fan clutch alone. :D

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WOW....you guys are great. Please post up all you can as far as what i will need. Im going to the parts store ASAP in the am to order this stuff to do the mod! i sent you a pm as well but you coverd it in the post.....

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So remove the stock fa/clutch, add washers, add the adapter and bolt the new fan to the adapter? thats it?

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Yep, it is easier to bolt the fan to the adapter then screw it on though. :) But thats it. :)

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So remove the stock fa/clutch, add washers, add the adapter and bolt the new fan to the adapter? thats it?


Um, this might be a dumb question, but I have to ask. Your profile says 06 cummins 2wd....you do have a CRD jeep liberty right? That is what the FFF mod parts list is for. The 06 Diesel truck may not use the same parts for this mod. You did buy a CRD jeep right? I remember you were talking about it and asking about them.

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:23 am 
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Also, here is the thread that has alot of info for mods and issues the CRD has that can be fixed for greater driveability.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=50930

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Yes, i bought an 05 CRD that i went and picked up in KY about 2 weeks ago. So far i have done 3'' turbo back, intake, and elephant hose mod. I would like to do everything i can to make it reliable.

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kapalczynski wrote:
Also, here is the thread that has alot of info for mods and issues the CRD has that can be fixed for greater driveability.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=50930


Help me out here Kap, how is that fan mod superior to stock?

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CRD Joe wrote:
kapalczynski wrote:
Also, here is the thread that has alot of info for mods and issues the CRD has that can be fixed for greater driveability.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=50930


Help me out here Kap, how is that fax mod superior to stock?


Um, not sure what you mean by fax?

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Yes, i bought an 05 CRD that i went and picked up in KY about 2 weeks ago. So far i have done 3'' turbo back, intake, and elephant hose mod. I would like to do everything i can to make it reliable.



You didn't by chance buy that CRD in Frankfort did you? Is it red?

Sorry to get off topic.

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Yes, i bought an 05 CRD that i went and picked up in KY about 2 weeks ago. So far i have done 3'' turbo back, intake, and elephant hose mod. I would like to do everything i can to make it reliable.



You didn't by chance buy that CRD in Frankfort did you? Is it red?

Sorry to get off topic.


No, its blue. got it in Somerset/lake cumberland area. I got it from a dealer which i almost never buy from just b/c i dont buy from dealers.....however he though he could move this and its seems no one knew anything about it(crd's)in that area. so i got it at what i belive is a good deal. My in laws live in bfe russel springs about 20mins away and they could check it out for me b/f we drove all that way for a pos....so it worked out good.

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dieselsmoke wrote:
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Yes, i bought an 05 CRD that i went and picked up in KY about 2 weeks ago. So far i have done 3'' turbo back, intake, and elephant hose mod. I would like to do everything i can to make it reliable.



You didn't by chance buy that CRD in Frankfort did you? Is it red?

Sorry to get off topic.


No, its blue. got it in Somerset/lake cumberland area. I got it from a dealer which i almost never buy from just b/c i dont buy from dealers.....however he though he could move this and its seems no one knew anything about it(crd's)in that area. so i got it at what i belive is a good deal. My in laws live in bfe russel springs about 20mins away and they could check it out for me b/f we drove all that way for a pos....so it worked out good.


OK that's cool. Was just wondering because my original CRD is now for sale by it's second owner up in Frankfort and he's only asking $11K for it. I thought maybe you picked that one up and that would have been cool. :JEEPIN:

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Oh brother. FAN MOD. Fan mod. How is it better than the stock set up?

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Oh brother. FAN MOD. Fan mod. How is it better than the stock set up?


yes...yes. back on topic. anyone care to share?

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Well, he came up with that fan mod because it is permanently fixed. I.E., it does not have a temperature controlled clutch like the OEM fan that can possibly fail. Therefore, once you install that fan in his mod...you have a permanent cooling solution.

The downside is added noise, decreased power, and decreased fuel economy, and slower heat-up times in the Winter. I am currently experimenting with NO fan. I've driven in the mountains, in 90+ degree heat, and towed a 6,500 lb. load and I have not overheated my engine yet. In fact, 99% of the time my temp guage stays below the half-way point. And that's with NO mechanical fan whatsoever. So the necessity of the fan mod is debateable. But...it's an alternative worth noting.

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Well, he came up with that fan mod because it is permanently fixed. I.E., it does not have a temperature controlled clutch like the OEM fan that can possibly fail. Therefore, once you install that fan in his mod...you have a permanent cooling solution.

The downside is added noise, decreased power, and decreased fuel economy, and slower heat-up times in the Winter. I am currently experimenting with NO fan. I've driven in the mountains, in 90+ degree heat, and towed a 6,500 lb. load and I have not overheated my engine yet. In fact, 99% of the time my temp guage stays below the half-way point. And that's with NO mechanical fan whatsoever. So the necessity of the fan mod is debateable. But...it's an alternative worth noting.


You list alot of "downsides" that may not be all that accurate. Feel free to read the thread started about it. I'm pretty sure these issues were discusse don the FFF mod thread, but I will re-address.

- Slower heat up times in winter. This is just plain wrong, not sure where you got this info, but you've been misinformed, sorry. I'll explain. The thermostat doesn't even allow coolant to flow through the radiator until the engine is warm, so how would a higher CFM fan cause slower engine heat-up time? It doesn't.
- Decreased fuel economy - Maybe, this has not been proven yet. As far as I know, I am the only one running this mod. In fact I just released the part numbers 2 days ago and I don't think anyone else at all has this mod. I have ACTUAL experience with this mod and am happy to share my unbiased thoughts on it. Hwy economy is same as far as i can tell. I have not seen a variance of more than 1mpg with either the stock fan and the FFF with city driving. The outside temp plays a bigger factor in economy than the fan does so it is hard to tell. If any loss, it is almost negligable. HWY economy is not effected because when traveling 60mph the air WANTS to go through the radiator at 60mph, there is no extra load from the fan on the engine at these speeds. In the city of course there is extra load due to being directly connected.
- Decreased power, ok, depends on how you look at this. Its a flex fan, it flattens out at high rpms freeing up power, it has roughly 1/3 the rotational mass than the factory fan. It frees up power compared to the factory setup (when it is locked). Compared to the unlocked factory fan (which in fairness, is most of the time) it will consume maybe a tiny bit more power due to being directly connected, but it also cools the air in the intercooler much more and more fuel can be added due to the cooler intake temps so may help power that way at WOT. This may or may not make up for it, but the cooling definately makes this mod worth a little unnoticeable loss of power...I should dyno it and see...you might be surprised, might make more power, idk. I did not notice any loss of power myself in the seat of the pants test.
- Added noise, a little yes. You're right on there. At cruise at 60mph it sounds like factory, but at mid rpm's and above, especially unlocked TC, more noise in city driving.

Now lets look at the benefits:

- Much MUCH better engine cooling
- Much better transmission cooling
- Much better Intercooler cooling and efficiency
- More efficient A/C cooling
- Completely reliable and will never fail (stock fan clutch has poor dependability and has been proven to fail many times)
- Cheaper than replacing a 150.00 fan clutch...so when yours fails, think about this mod...I have no regrets
- You will NEVER overheat with this fan setup unless your thermostat fails closed or your waterpump completely fails. (neither of these has ever happened that I know of on a CRD [correct me if I'm wrong and tell me who], thermostats on our CRD's fail in open position)


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