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 Post subject: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:23 pm 
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Since nobody cares about the troubles with CRD , it is time to SELL .BBB , State`s Attorney , and all the others are waiting for more victims , looks like nobody got killed yet , so no reason for recalls .
My 2005 Liberty cought on fire in May . It had about 52 000 miles .The engine accesories are melted , but engine should be fine .Car is in the shop in Chicago , Il .Service history available , police report as well , and you can always stop and look at it .


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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Fire sale pricing, I suppose. :?

Sorry for your loss.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:03 pm 
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sorry for your loss, any info on what caused the fire to start?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:46 pm 
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You had insurance didn't you?

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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:26 pm 
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Asking price for the car is $4900.I had only liability , Changed in December , it was a mistake !!!! Fire started in fuel filter assembly , fuel heater .


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:00 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:30 pm 
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Asking price for the car is $4900.I had only liability , Changed in December , it was a mistake !!!! Fire started in fuel filter assembly , fuel heater .




You may have a law suit. The heater assembly is known for leakage. Never heard of a fire before though. Kind of hard to get diesel to ignite.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:06 pm 
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Chicago is full of Blood Sucker Lawyers (even though some became politicians), perhaps one could do something worth while and get you a settlement from Chrysler.

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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:30 am 
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warp2diesel wrote:
Chicago is full of Blood Sucker Lawyers (even though some became politicians), perhaps one could do something worth while and get you a settlement from Chrysler.


At best you MAY get a settlement, but it will be from the bankrupt part of Chrysler.

Remember dust up about Fiat not having ANY liability for ANY Chrysler products sold before emerging from bankruptcy (that includes our wonderful CRD).

The new company is only required to honor warranty service and recalls.

FYI, The new GM was forced by the bankruptcy court - or agreed to accept - product liability for pre bankruptcy sales.

Then again with Lawyers, who knows what angle/loophole they can dig up.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:37 pm 
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BVCRD wrote:
popmisoli wrote:
Asking price for the car is $4900.I had only liability , Changed in December , it was a mistake !!!! Fire started in fuel filter assembly , fuel heater .




You may have a law suit. The heater assembly is known for leakage. Never heard of a fire before though. Kind of hard to get diesel to ignite.


There have been mention of others on here. I can recall two, but I don't recall who they were.


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I do not knwo where to turn anymore .Lemon lawyers said , they can not go to court beacuse of statue of limitations , the other lawyers are saying it will cost me more , then the car itself .I do not know where to turn .


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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
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Unfortunately, the reality is that the statute of limitations isn't your problem. It is that bankruptcy judge that gave Chrysler-Fiat all the gold and jewels from Daimler-Chrysler... And told everyone else that they would be left holding the bag.

He issued a decree that said that anyone with a claim (lawsuit, or potential in your case) against Daimler-Chrysler Would have no claim against Chrysler-Fiat. Chrysler-Fiat was a completely new and separate entity that had zero liability to any of the debts of the previous company.

It is NOT legally required of Chrysler-Fiat to pick up any of the warranty claims, even for the people with the so-called "lifetime" warranty on their vehicles. That "lifetime" was issued by Daimler-Chrysler, a now dead corporate entity. The ONLY reason that Chrysler-Fiat picked up any of the warranties (and it could EASILY be called a case-by-case basis) is for good publicity. Can you imagine the hue and cry that would have happened if they had said outright "We don't have any liability, and that includes your warranties. Have a nice day" to the public?

Instead, they publicly can say "we love our former customers" to the media... Then to the individual "bugger off, that problem isn't covered" and still reach the same end result: They get all the gold, we get the sack. Caveat Emptor, or to paraphrase a NY Italian accent "Is not personal, is business."

The reality in this situation is, the lawyers are right - It will cost more than the car is worth b/c no lawyer will take this on contingency. The likelihood of ANY recovery from a dead company is zilch, and Fiat got a free pass from that judge.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:01 pm 
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popmisoli wrote:
Since nobody cares about the troubles with CRD , it is time to SELL .BBB , State`s Attorney , and all the others are waiting for more victims , looks like nobody got killed yet , so no reason for recalls .
My 2005 Liberty cought on fire in May . It had about 52 000 miles .The engine accesories are melted , but engine should be fine .Car is in the shop in Chicago , Il .Service history available , police report as well , and you can always stop and look at it .


Do you have any pictures?

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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:27 pm 
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Unfortunately, the reality is that the statute of limitations isn't your problem. It is that bankruptcy judge that gave Chrysler-Fiat all the gold and jewels from Daimler-Chrysler... And told everyone else that they would be left holding the bag.

He issued a decree that said that anyone with a claim (lawsuit, or potential in your case) against Daimler-Chrysler Would have no claim against Chrysler-Fiat. Chrysler-Fiat was a completely new and separate entity that had zero liability to any of the debts of the previous company.

It is NOT legally required of Chrysler-Fiat to pick up any of the warranty claims, even for the people with the so-called "lifetime" warranty on their vehicles. That "lifetime" was issued by Daimler-Chrysler, a now dead corporate entity. The ONLY reason that Chrysler-Fiat picked up any of the warranties (and it could EASILY be called a case-by-case basis) is for good publicity. Can you imagine the hue and cry that would have happened if they had said outright "We don't have any liability, and that includes your warranties. Have a nice day" to the public?

Instead, they publicly can say "we love our former customers" to the media... Then to the individual "bugger off, that problem isn't covered" and still reach the same end result: They get all the gold, we get the sack. Caveat Emptor, or to paraphrase a NY Italian accent "Is not personal, is business."

I think one of the conditions of the government sponsored bankruptcy was that the companies had to honor existing warranties. During the time between declaring and the actual reorganization taking place, the government covered the cost. Of course they could have weaseled out of this by now, but my understanding was that warranty obligations were transferred to the entity.


The reality in this situation is, the lawyers are right - It will cost more than the car is worth b/c no lawyer will take this on contingency. The likelihood of ANY recovery from a dead company is zilch, and Fiat got a free pass from that judge.


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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:54 pm 
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I will post the pictures next week .I am out of town until tuesday .


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 Post subject: Re: "SMOKING" CRD FOR SALE
PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:31 pm 
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Yep that's exactly the problem, dont expect any merci from them...I just manage to get a $500 cut on a $1400 bill, they don't get the job done anyway...They will never see my money again, my next truck will be a Tacoma and if Toyota manage to put a Diesel in the FJ dont be suprise to find a bunch of use Wrangler for sale... :cry: R I P Chrysler.

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