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| Author: | Quiksilver [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Euro vs US Spec models |
I live in South Africa, how would i find out which "spec" Liberty i have? Much talk on this site about Euro T/C etc so was wondering if mine already has that or something i need to be thinking about. Its right hand drive which would make me think Euro? 
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
The so called "Euro" tc was introduced with the newer more powerfull engine available in Europe in 07 or 08 (I don't remember for sure) Hence people here calling it the "Euro" TC  It's now the replacement for all 05 and 06 US CRD KJ's Yours is a 06 so you have the same as us in the US have. Now was your 06 built before November 05? that one failed very early and was replaced as part of the F37 TSB. Those model year 06 bult from November 05 and onward had the newer (NOT EURO) tc. Hopes this helps. |
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| Author: | Quiksilver [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
Sweet just got this back from Chrysler SA Good day Simon Thank you for contacting Chrysler South Africa. Kindly be notified that recalls on your vehicle were done and there is no outstanding recalls. The below recalls were performed. 1.Lower Ball joints 2.Torque Converter & PCM Please be assured of our best attention. Kind Regards Daniel Mokoena(Mr) Chrysler South Africa (Pty) Ltd Customer Response Manager Chrysler / Dodge / Jeep 123 Wierda Road,Zwartkop Pretoria , 0046 South Africa Fax: 012 677 5779 Tel: 012 677 5687 mm1601@Chrysler.com http://www.chrysler.co.za Toll free: 0800 24 79 75 37 So what does that mean, do i have the updated American T/C or the "Euro" one? I guess the US one.... but still glad its been done
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
Depends on when the recall was done. The so called Euro TC has not been the replacement for much longer then a year or so. I suspect you have the updated US model. However the "original" one used untill 11/05 was an updated one with some kind of a cushion feature that caused it to fail within a few thousand miles in some instances. The second one, the one you most likely have, is a older version without the cushion.  I hope this does not confuse you  Searching on the GDE site there's a chart showing the torque specifications before F37, with F37 and for their ECO tune specifications. The maximum torque output is at 2000 rpms. Original as sold new 301 foot pounds, F37 260 foot pounds and Eco Tune 335 foot pounds. The original values ranged from 261 @ 1400 rpms to 301 @ 2000. After F37 it's a flat 260 from 1400 to 3000 where it starts to taper off. Eco tune is 290 @ 1400 to 307 @ 3000. GDE has two "eco" tunes. The "eco" and "full torque ECO" The "Eco" still has torque limiting to protect the original TC. You definetly want a stronger torque converter for the "full torque" version. |
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| Author: | reka12 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
Just curious, what was the new more powerful engine? |
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| Author: | Quiksilver [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
Joe Romas wrote: However the "original" one used untill 11/05 was an updated one with some kind of a cushion feature that caused it to fail within a few thousand miles in some instances. The second one, the one you most likely have, is a older version without the cushion. I hope this does not confuse you is right!  agh whatever, drive it till it breaks  Thanks for the feedback |
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| Author: | Joe Romas [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Euro vs US Spec models |
reka12 wrote: Just curious, what was the new more powerful engine? Go here. We in the US got the R428. the newer one is the RA428 4 stands for 4 valves per cylinder and 28 stands for 2.8L http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=11 Joe |
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