Rough country lift

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:08 pm

Simple question why does the rough country lift not fit diesel models

yodejt02 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:31 pm

Cause the lift is too high for diesels. Rough country is not a great lift anyway. Same price u can go with an OME springs and bilstien shocks with a clevis or topplate.

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:34 pm

Thank u buddy when u ready to put a lift on

skywarn · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:54 am

Ummm...to high?? Do you even drive Jeep? Really? A Jeep that's to high...wow, I can't beleave that was said...

No, its not to high, in fact they work really well. Unless your just trying to justify your $700 frankn lift that looks just the same when driving down the road to work every day on a PAVED road....

For those who live in the real world, goto the tech sec and check out the install of the RC lift. I put 100k miles with out blowing anything. Sorry guys... It worked for my CRD and only pd $150. And side by side on and off road my buddys frankn lift performed snd looked the same. Well except the $600 price diff!

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:19 am

didnt mean to get a war started just found out a buddy had a rc lift on his that he got rid of and said he would sell it to me for 75 bucks

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:44 am

The concern with anything ~3" is the drivers side CV joint
it's shorter on the CRD so it's more of an angle
and you have a higher chance of tearing the CV boot on install

that's the reason All-J's stopped adding the additional spacer on the CRD Frankenlift - too many folks had problems on the install, it's also why Daystar stopped saying you could use the 2 1/2 on the Diesel.

if you can get it back together without damaging anything - they work.

yodejt02 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:48 am

Thank you ATXKJ. Guess I needed to spell it out for that guy. But again I must not know anything about jeeps....I learned from the reverend Mudd, and he knows nothing as well :ROTFL:

And yes a lift can be too high for a jeep

Maybe before I am told I know nothing someone should do a search themself.....

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:01 pm

Well if I put the cradle drop is it going to put stuff back in place

yodejt02 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm

To make a long post short........craddle drop is complicated for to do on a KJ

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:20 pm

yodejt02 wrote:

To make a long post short........cradle drop is complicated for to do on a KJ

x2

The CRD comes with the engine cradle dropped - compared to a V6
if you add more - you have to start looking at moving fans/radiators to get things aligned.

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:16 am

By looking at everything it looks like I could easily get away with dropping two inches on the cradle. Had it on the lift today

Pote · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:13 am

double tap...weird

Pote · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:20 am

skywarn wrote:

Ummm...to high?? Do you even drive Jeep? Really? A Jeep that's to high...wow, I can't beleave that was said...

No, its not to high, in fact they work really well. Unless your just trying to justify your $700 frankn lift that looks just the same when driving down the road to work every day on a PAVED road....

For those who live in the real world, goto the tech sec and check out the install of the RC lift. I put 100k miles with out blowing anything. Sorry guys... It worked for my CRD and only pd $150. And side by side on and off road my buddys frankn lift performed snd looked the same. Well except the $600 price diff!

For those in the real world...you ALWAYS get what you pay for. Did you notice the RC lift first of all doesn't even contain all the parts you need to do and ACTUAL suspension lift and have to buy additional coils AND front shocks if you were actually doing a coil lift? There is a reason for the $500 price difference and yes, there is "too high" for the CRD being the CV is way shorter on one side and cannot accommodate the angle....May I ask why you sold and no longer have the awesomely lifted CRD?

oh and also, since you refer to the tech sec...if you do go there, overwhelmingly 90% of the people say the RC lift is subpar. So I think justifying goes both ways. Not trying to flame but comparing part for part, quality...there is no comparison, plus its NOT a complete lift kit.

AND...if you go to the companys OWN link: http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_liberty_3.html

look at their very first bullet point at the top which may or may not be important to some. :ROTFL:

the page reads:

Notes:
• Does Not fit diesel models. :lol:

Benefits:
• 100% bolt-on installation.
• Increased ground clearance.
• No need to remove strut from the vehicle.
• Does Not require removal of the battery box, electrical components or the air intake. :shock:

Specs:
• Part #: 692S
• Install Time: 1 - 2 hours
• Wheel Backspacing: Stock
• Recommended Tire Size: 265/70 R16
• Download Instructions: View

I for one would like to know how you do a suspension lift without having to replace the front coils which requires removal/replacement of the front shocks...oh yeah, because they don't include those in their kit and the kit is using an aluminum spacer on the front, so its not even a true spring lift, because you use your stock ones - the issue being your using your stock Liberty springs that are going to sag with or without the spacer, they are stock springs for crying out loud PLUS you still use your stock shocks on the front - comparing that to the Heavy duty Frankie coils or for that matter the HD OME coils is just kidding yourself, check what they are rated poundage-wise, stock versus OME - not even a comparison Since you are going by "looks" well, looks and actual offroad rated support are two very different things.. :shock:

RC is a glorified spacer lift and is like using a Daystar spacer lift...nothing wrong with that, but its in no way anything like a true spring lift all the way around the jeep. not by a long shot.

and like one poster said...Daystar believes the same...their product reads:

2002-2007 Jeep Liberty 2&amp;4WD (excludes diesel engine models) - Suspension Lift (2 1/2&quot; Front Coil Spacers 2&quot; Rear Coil Spacers)
2002-2007 Jeep Liberty 2&4WD (excludes diesel engine models) - Suspension Lift (2 1/2" Front Coil Spacers 2" Rear Coil Spacers)

Wonder why that is? LOL Seems no one wants the liability of messing with a too short CV.

So bottom line, swallow some pride, put in the money and go with an actual coil lift (like the Frankie for the CRD) and do it right.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:59 am

The RC puts a spacer between the bottom of the strut and the clevis.
so it's the effect of a 'super' clevis lift, which you could also get by using KK clevis's
(ask Mr Mudd)

if you actually replace the coils with OME's - you'll get a lift and a better ride
and yes you spend more money, and yes it's worth it.

yodejt02 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:56 pm

bottom line......

OME springs
bilstien/OME shocks
clevis or top spacers

best set up for the money

I ran a frankin lift on mine I liked it, BUT when I had to service the drivers side it was a bear to tear apart and put back together.

LibertyCRD · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:50 am

What's interesting is that it says "Recommended tire size: 265/70-16". But we've already had a member put 265/70-16s on his KJ and he reported that it would be an impossible size to run due to rubbing without wheel spacers. So I'm not sure about this RC lift..sounds like they didn't do their homework.

After the horrible experience my father had with RC on his CJ, neither of us will ever buy anything from them again anyhow, so it doesn't really matter to me. . I was just pointing this out.

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