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VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
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Author:  Wobbly [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
The Chrysler brand will no longer be sold in Europe, except for Ireland and the UK.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-br ... urope.html

The VM Motori 2.8 engine with Stop&Start technology will be available in Lancias.

Stop &Start: http://green.autoblog.com/2009/11/04/di ... n-q4-2010/

Italian article:
http://www.risparmiauto.it/notizie/chry ... -dicembre/

English translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 6prmd%3Div
Author:  irollgen4s [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
Stop and start= :evil: :( :dead:
Author:  Wobbly [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
Article on Stop & Start:

English:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 6prmd%3Div

Italian:
http://www.alvolante.it/da_sapere/come_ ... _il_motore
Author:  CRDMiller [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
If the stop and start controller/programming does not have access to pyrometer and or oil temp information, this will eventually coke the turbo bearings unless it' is so conservative that it would not be useful in normal driving conditions.
Author:  Wobbly [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
CRDMiller wrote:
If the stop and start controller/programming does not have access to pyrometer and or oil temp information, this will eventually coke the turbo bearings unless it' is so conservative that it would not be useful in normal driving conditions.


Bosch has sold around 2 million systems, so they must have considered this in the design. It looks like Bosch's system is only available with manual transmissions, and would be most effective in city driving.
http://www.bosch-kraftfahrzeugtechnik.d ... tstoff.pdf
Author:  LibertyCRD [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
Sounds like another fun project for GDE to disable. :mrgreen:
Author:  Wobbly [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
Fräulein Boschtronic narrates a video on the Start Stop(p) system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxLexBzcqw
Author:  warp2diesel [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
The VM 2.8L is not all the same block as ours, it has a parent bore configuration.
Since Cummins uses a parent bore on all of the Ram engines, a parent bore block is not a down grade for Automotive applications.
GDE has documented the other changes such as Piezo electric injectors in other discussions.
Author:  OldSkull [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
You need to stop and put the manual tranny in neutral then the system check every parameter and stop the engine...How many of us do this? I alway's keep any vehicule in gear at every street corner :-) Since we only get auto tranny here this system will never engage...Just good to cut iddle time but if the system fail he can cut the engine for good...AKA Boom in your rear end :ROTFL:
Author:  Wobbly [ Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: VM Motori 2.8 Diesel To Live On in Europe
warp2diesel wrote:
The VM 2.8L is not all the same block as ours, it has a parent bore configuration.
Since Cummins uses a parent bore on all of the Ram engines, a parent bore block is not a down grade for Automotive applications.
GDE has documented the other changes such as Piezo electric injectors in other discussions.


Right. The new engine is a RA 428. Ours is a R 428.
http://www.vmmotori.it/uploads/doc/1695.pdf
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