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Author:  Cowcatcher [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Glow Plug Time
I am getting P Codes for two bad glow plugs, #1 and #3. Should I entrust this to some trained mechanic or can my arthritic old mitts handle the job?

I lost a front brake and needed to have the dealer fix it. I asked them for a quote on the timing belt too and it came back pretty close to $1K. From those who have had it done, is that in the ball park? Should I take it to the Jeep dealer for it who hasn't done many or to the Dodge dealer that services a lot of Ram and Sprinters?
Author:  ATXKJ [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
assuming your wiring is in the right direction - 1 should be easy (worst case you pull the alternator) - but 3 would be a royal pain - you have to pull intake parts to get there.
- note about 1/2 the folks have had the wiring harness reversed -


on the Timing belt - $1000 is probably about right - but make sure they're changing all the parts i.e. the tensioner, pulleys, the water pump - you don't want to do it twice.

The hard part is having the special tools to hold the cams/crank in the right place - there are no timing marks.

my tendency would be to talk to the Rams/Sprinter folks - but talk to them first - see if they have the tools & if they've ever seen a CRD.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
Cowcatcher wrote:
I am getting P Codes for two bad glow plugs, #1 and #3. Should I entrust this to some trained mechanic or can my arthritic old mitts handle the job?


A bottle of Niproxin Sodium is much much cheaper than most dealers who tend to screw up diesels.

Call your regional Injection Pump/Injector rebuild shop and ask for referrals in your area, they know who is good and won't recommend those who are not. If the Sprinter/Dodge dealer is good, they will recommend them.
Author:  kdlewis1975 [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
warp2diesel wrote:
Cowcatcher wrote:
I am getting P Codes for two bad glow plugs, #1 and #3. Should I entrust this to some trained mechanic or can my arthritic old mitts handle the job?


A bottle of Niproxin Sodium is much much cheaper than most dealers who tend to screw up diesels.

Call your regional Injection Pump/Injector rebuild shop and ask for referrals in your area, they know who is good and won't recommend those who are not. If the Sprinter/Dodge dealer is good, they will recommend them.


...if you're going to insult someone or a whole class of people, at least spell crap right. It's Naproxen Sodium.
Author:  warp2diesel [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
kdlewis1975 wrote:
warp2diesel wrote:
Cowcatcher wrote:
I am getting P Codes for two bad glow plugs, #1 and #3. Should I entrust this to some trained mechanic or can my arthritic old mitts handle the job?


A bottle of Niproxin Sodium is much much cheaper than most dealers who tend to screw up diesels.

Call your regional Injection Pump/Injector rebuild shop and ask for referrals in your area, they know who is good and won't recommend those who are not. If the Sprinter/Dodge dealer is good, they will recommend them.


...if you're going to insult someone or a whole class of people, at least spell crap right. It's Naproxen Sodium.


Work for a pharmaceutical company? If so keep up the work.
I have worked for dealers, as a factory rep, and have run my own independent shop.
Got out of it and don't miss i a bit.
If facts are insulting, that is too bad. The record of LOST members who have gone to dealers and have had problems follows my experience.
When it comes to dealer service departments only about 25% are great the rest follow the bell shaped curve from OK, to mediocre, to bad. I had the full range when I was a rep.
Author:  kdlewis1975 [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
warp2diesel wrote:
Work for a pharmaceutical company? If so keep up the work.
I have worked for dealers, as a factory rep, and have run my own independent shop.
Got out of it and don't miss i a bit.
If facts are insulting, that is too bad. The record of LOST members who have gone to dealers and have had problems follows my experience.
When it comes to dealer service departments only about 25% are great the rest follow the bell shaped curve from OK, to mediocre, to bad. I had the full range when I was a rep.



I do work for a chemical company, but I'm not the kind of chemist that synthesizes drugs and pharmaceuticals. I could do it with some study, but my training is more along the lines of polymers and materials chemistry.

I don't disagree with your assessment of the competence of many of the mechanics. The point is that I see people here talk smack about this or that. If someone has numerous grammatical and spelling errors in their rant about how people are clueless or are idiots, it loses its luster since the individual stating it looks just as ignorant.

...not glow plug related, but I had an interesting experience today. I went to Discount Tire to upgrade my bald tires before the upcoming snow. I have the Mopar wheel locks installed...that's how it was setting on the dealer's lot. Well, the nimrods at Discount Tire managed to completely disintegrated the first one they tried to remove. They also ruined the "key" with on that first one. They did manage to remove the others using their universal key. Unfortunately, there's still 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch remaining on the stud preventing the wheel from coming off.

I get this call while having lunch with my two year old informing me of what happened. I got the the, "Well, there appears to be some rust on the stud and whomever removed them last must of over-tightened them. There could have been a hair line crack. There wasn't any problem in removing any of the normal lugnuts." The problem here is I do my own tire rotations and I while I use a impact gun to run the lugs up, I do the final tightening with a torque wrench to 90 ft*lbs. I went out and looked at the damage before I went and talked to them. I was advised to take it down the street to Tuffy to have them get the remnant out and the wheel. I was quite peeved after seeing the damage and the ensuing "gosh, we don't know how that happened" routine. The Tuffy work will be on their dime. Though I've already paid for the tires, they didn't change any of the others due to worrying about destroying the transfer case or differentials...tire sizes are slightly different, but I'm glad they didn't change any of them since it makes it easier to walk away. I suspect they put the "key" on the wheel lock and spun the impact gun before the key was engaged. The remnants of wheel lock is literally embedded in the key...never seen anything like it.

I'm hoping I can avoid the glow plug woes until the new kits are out and readily available. I searched moparpartsamerica.com and they either don't have them or they may not be in their catalog yet.
Author:  UtopiaCRD [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
kdlewis1975 wrote:
If someone has numerous grammatical and spelling errors in their rant about how people are clueless or are idiots, it loses its luster since the individual stating it looks just as ignorant.

then
kdlewis1975 wrote:
Well, the nimrods at Discount Tire managed to completely disintegrated the first one they tried to remove.


Composition errors bother me too, but they have little to do with the competence of the author in the area of diesel mechanics. I'll listen to anyone, no mater how bad there spelling and gramer. :jester:
Author:  durangotang [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
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Author:  Joe Romas [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow Plug Time
If this forum turns into a group of bored English teachers I'll be looking for other digs :jester:

There's a email that circulates every now and then that shows how the human eye and brain can read perfectly totally garbage IF the first and last (as I recall) letters are correct.

So if bashing someone's English, spelling or typing starts to rear it's ugly head here it's good bye for me :dead:

This is a JEEP forum not a retired english teacher's sewing group :ROTFL: :-)r
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