I am pretty sure your new battery will resolve the problem
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sat May 07, 2011 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Battery good, no start |
I can't believe it. I get home from 5 days away, drive from the airport park in the driveway. Now the CRD won't start. I have battery, I mean everything functions normally, I go to start it and NOTHING happens, no clickin, nothing. All the fuses appear to be fine, we've had no rain overnight the thing is just not cranking. I reset everything by taking the negative off the battery for 5 min. Still nothing. Have the battery on a charger now will wait a few. Any other suggestions? Stranded.... in the driveway |
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| Author: | Wobbly [ Sat May 07, 2011 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Some basic tips here: http://autorepair.about.com/od/troubles ... -start.htm If these don't help, get the wiring diagram and start checking voltages around the starter relay, ignition switch, and starter. You might need someone to turn the ignition switch when you test. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sat May 07, 2011 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
I looked through all of these, all of these are fine. lights cycle through , fan, radio cut out when key is in start position tried in Park and Neutral reseated all the fuses, just haven't banged on the starter yet. |
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| Author: | papaindigo [ Sat May 07, 2011 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
I've seen this happen before on other vehicles with an automatic transmission and a very common cause is a bad transmission position sensor. When they fail the usual failure mode is one that "tells" the ignition system the transmission is in gear in which case when you turn the key everything works but no crank up related sounds not even a click. Don't offhand know where this switch is on the CRD but that's one of the first things I'd look at. If it's the same switch that turns on the 4wd lights in the dash it's on the top of the transmission and best accessed by removal of the center console. If you determine that's the switch pm or email me and I'll send center console removal instructions I recently found on a different forum. |
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| Author: | warp2diesel [ Sat May 07, 2011 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Rattle the shifter before you tear it all apart. Dirt and other stuff gets into switches and can cause a malfunction. I am sure it would not break your EGO if the dirt fell out and it worked, worth the risk. |
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| Author: | uham [ Sat May 07, 2011 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
When you turn the key to start does the engine turn over? If it does not turn over and the radio goes off when you turn the key to start. It may be the starter drawing too much current or the battery not able to put out enough power to actually crank the engine. Check the voltage at the battery when attempting to start the engine. If it goes below 11 volts when you try to start then I suspect it is either a bad battery or starter. |
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| Author: | Roostre [ Sat May 07, 2011 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Mine will occasionally do this... I stroke the shifter back and forth a few times and it clears up. Try starting it in Neutral and see if you get any cranking. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sat May 07, 2011 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
uham wrote: When you turn the key to start does the engine turn over? If it does not turn over and the radio goes off when you turn the key to start. It may be the starter drawing too much current or the battery not able to put out enough power to actually crank the engine. Check the voltage at the battery when attempting to start the engine. If it goes below 11 volts when you try to start then I suspect it is either a bad battery or starter. The engine does not turn over, the radio does go off. the dash sequences. IMO, I think it is the battery, it's the original 2006 Optima. I am getting a Diehard in the AM. Will post the outcome. |
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| Author: | Billwill [ Sun May 08, 2011 3:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
I am pretty sure your new battery will resolve the problem
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Billwill wrote: I am pretty sure your new battery will resolve the problem Hope so mate, Forgot it was mom's day here, delivery will be delayed......... |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Took the Red Top to Sears 12.56 volts 800 cranking amps. so the battery is good. Now the radio goes off, lights sequence in the dash so I suspect the ignition is good. Have to find out about the P/R lockout in the SG. Continuity check to the solenoid and beyond. At least I didn't buy a 200 battery and find out I didn't need it. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Ignition switch appears to be ok, cycles through all positions Changed the starter motor relay with the VH relay. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Ignition switch appears to be ok, cycles through all positions On to the solenoid |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
solenoid, starter connections, starters are clean rapped the starter with a hammer BTS cable moves in console. did not detach it from the steering wheel, although the key cannot be removed from the column other than when the shifter is in P or N and the key is in the off or aux position Reseated all the fuses and relays under the hood. Just does not turn the starter. |
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| Author: | TJ2 [ Sun May 08, 2011 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Did you try jumping across the terminals on the solenoid? Haven't actually looked at the starter setup on my CRD, and I suppose it could be some esoteric BS design. However, I've never seen a vehicle that you couldn't activate the starter by jumping the solenoid terminals. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
TJ2 wrote: Did you try jumping across the terminals on the solenoid? Haven't actually looked at the starter setup on my CRD, although I've never seen a vehicle you couldn't activate the starter by jumping the solenoid terminals. I've not done that, the solenoid is done on top of the starter, I'm having fun trying to get underneath it. You jump with a screwdriver? I also wouldn't want to run myself over with the dang thing either |
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| Author: | TJ2 [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Screwdriver, short wrench, jumper wire. . . anything that will conduct electricity. |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Starter motor spins when I jump the solenoid but does not engage with the engine |
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| Author: | TJ2 [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
Bad starter. Wonder if they are readily available? |
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| Author: | striperman36 [ Sun May 08, 2011 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battery good, no start |
I have an extended warranty that covers it. I'll be finding out shortly. |
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