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 Post subject: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:29 pm 
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so I found glow plugs for our CRDs and only cost 11$ a piece! but i ordered them and now i need to know and or learn how to put them in.... if any one can help and or send step by step with pics or what now i would appreciate it. being military underpaid cant afford to fix it at a shop unless ne one here is in el paso?..... also i want to know who makes a better lift rocky roack rockfather delux or jeepin by al 4 in lift? also are there any other places to buy a lift and or bumper thats not a 1k$ abr bumper?... :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:38 pm 
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First off what glow plugs did you get; from whom; are they 7v drop in? Details please.

As to how I don't have pictures but see viewtopic.php?f=5&t=56696&p=630729&hilit=glow+removal#p630729 and I'd recommend you download both the 2005 and 2006 FSM from Sams NOOB guide (05 lacks cooling data and diagnostics but does have illustration keys - 06 has cooling data and diagnostics but no illustration keys - search for glow plug to see some drawings.)

NOTE/EDIT - CORRECTED LINK POSTED ABOVE

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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:42 pm 
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papaindigo wrote:
First off what glow plugs did you get; from whom; are they 7v drop in? Details please.

As to how I don't have pictures but see viewtopic.php?f=5&t=64043 and I'd recommend you download both the 2005 and 2006 FSM from Sams NOOB guide (05 lacks cooling data and diagnostics but does have illustration keys - 06 has cooling data and diagnostics but no illustration keys - search for glow plug to see some drawings.)


I must be missing something here. I am researching changing GPs since I know that there is an issue with 5v/7V and controllers, etc. and I was hoping your link would provide me a clue, but it just takes me back to this thread.

I have already downloaded the FSMs so I'm good there, but will that have the information on the change-over?


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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:36 pm 
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The FSM will cover replacing the GP's :SOMBRERO: BUT your ECM must be flashed or your new glow plugs will have a very short life, That will require a trip to the dealer or a tune from GDE.

But read all the threads, there's a new guy on the block with metal 7 volt glow plugs that don't require a ECM flash or controller :jester:
Also there's some doubt about the difference if any between the old and new controllers. They both have the same part number printed on them just the new ones have it blacked out with a felt marker :dizzy:

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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:49 pm 
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Here is the link to the drop-in replacements...

http://www.dieselglowplug.com/gx3123-di ... -2032.html

GX3123 Diesel Glow Plug 7V for Jeep Cherokee and Liberty
Ref. GX3123 30,25EUR
Tax Included



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This double filament 7V glow plug usually fits on VM diesel engines, see cross references list and application below for more info. This is a fast heating glow plug, controlled by a fast starting control unit. It works as a drop in replacement for the original ceramic glow plug, you can unscrew the old ceramic 7V and use this item without any other update. It doesn't require any flash or software update. You can also mix this item with the original ceramic glow plugs if you wish, but remember if you got one replaced, the left overs will not last any long. It's 100% tested on production line by automatic machines and lifespan tested according to oem protocols. It's made using steel sheated technology, it has been designed to replace original ceramic glow plugs.


NEW 2011 SEASON SPECIAL DISCOUNT!!
10% DISCOUNT FOR 4 OR MORE PIECES (FULL SET)
20% DISCOUNT FOR 15 OR MORE PIECES
30% DISCOUNT FOR 50 OR MORE PIECES
EVEN IF DIFFERENT MODELSThis item is suitable to the following main competitors codes Manufacturer brand Manufacturer ref.
BOSCH 0 250 302 004
BOSCH 0250302004
BOSCH 80041
CHRYSLER 0 514 2577 AA
CHRYSLER 05142577AA

This item is used on the following vehicles

Manufacturer Model Engine Lit Cyl Kw V Date
JEEP LIBERTY/CHEROKEE (KJ) 2.8 CRD VM (7V GLOW PLUG) 2.8 4 7 01/06->01/08

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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:03 pm 
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whitedog - sorry about the link issue, corrected link posted above. As far as replacement goes your options appear to be 1) OEM with a kit cost of ca. $125 assuming you can get a kit with the right controller, seems to be a problem there, plus ca $100 for a dealer ECU reflash or ca. $50 to update a GDE flash or 2) the new Etecno1 plugs which are, as noted, a drop in replacement that uses the existing controller and does not require an ECU flash update.

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 Post subject: Re: HELP!!! Replace my glow plugs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:10 pm 
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Joe Romas wrote:
Whitedog

The FSM will cover replacing the GP's :SOMBRERO: BUT your ECM must be flashed or your new glow plugs will have a very short life, That will require a trip to the dealer or a tune from GDE.

But read all the threads, there's a new guy on the block with metal 7 volt glow plugs that don't require a ECM flash or controller :jester:
Also there's some doubt about the difference if any between the old and new controllers. They both have the same part number printed on them just the new ones have it blacked out with a felt marker :dizzy:


Joe - The controllers were very similar, the only difference I could tell was one digit (I went outside and physically just verified this): above 4 zyl is the number-letter series of 12V905 with 905 beingin a circle. My old one was 907 in a circle (pretty sure, pitched it 4 weeks ago).

Also, me 4 months to get the parts and find the time. GP1 fouled the first of July, so 4 months of half-spent diesel fuel blowing up into this orifice :ROTFL: fouled and gunked up the insides...causing a vacuum when I tried to remove it from the block. It was a very tense 30 minutes as I became more confident as to that had indeed happened rather stripping/spinning the GP's threads on the way out.

The FCV connections were also a PITA. I found it easiest to have someone guide me from above as I used extensions and bolted it back together from the bottom.

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