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 Post subject: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:41 pm 
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Iv been shopping for a trailer or small toyhauler and came across this.

http://iowacity.craigslist.org/rvs/2824202039.html

http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/defaul ... ce=summary

Sounds high, but site says dry weight of 5,276 lb. Tongue weight 912 lb and I would then add another 1500 lbs of motorcycles and gear.

To much for the CRD? Keep looking?

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 Post subject: Re: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:18 pm 
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It would be close, IF those numbers are accurate. That sounds a bit high, and I'm dubious about the accuracy just looking at that site. They have LOTS of different models, and that CL listing looks more like an early model than the newer ones. You would be OK pulling it dry to a local truckstop and running it across the scales before buying it , and that would also give you a chance to see how it tows.

I think that you would be OK on the raw weight even when loaded (don't fill that water tank completely unless you have to!) but the wind resistance might be your downfall. That is a nice BIG box, which means wind loading on the engine.

BTW: If that thing actually does have an 80 gallon fresh water tank... Oof. That is 640 lbs of just water to be carrying, to say nothing of the black / grey waste tanks with even more! Unless you are driving into the bush for a solid month, put that thing on a diet and drop all that water weight. Propane is another liquid tank, I would only fill that part way to avoid the cost AND the weight - Even a furnace will only burn through a 5 gallon "barbecue bottle" in a week of 20 degree temps. You don't need more than that, you are always close to an LP supply.

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 Post subject: Re: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:28 pm 
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That is a heavy, and large, outfit. The CRD will pull it - and it will not be an enjoyable drive, esp in any wind, up/down grade. Too big for me...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:22 pm 
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Stopping it is not a problem, that is why you have trailer brakes. The engine pulls the entire load up to speed, the trailer brakes the entire load back down. It is physics, you should always be "pulling" in either direction through the ball, parallel to the ground. You should not be "pushing" the two vehicles together, and especially not at any angles where the frames of both vehicles aren't parallel to the ground - That is what happens when the trailer is not loaded properly, and it leads to unstable towing. When both are parallel, the "lines of force" are straight through the ball, and the tow is much safer and smoother.

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 Post subject: Re: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
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that's an awful lot of mass. unless you're spending a week in the middle of bumble**** nowhere paying off-roading games with the toys why do you need it?

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 Post subject: Re: 5,276 lb Work and play 18' Toy Hauler?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:12 pm 
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sota wrote:
unless you're spending a week in the middle of bumble**** nowhere playing off-roading games with the toys why do you need it?


That's my plan.. A week or more in the middle of nowhere..

The owner isn't flexible enough on his asking price. I offered $7000 but he was insulted and wont come back with a counter offer..

http://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/2006/Work ... /M-18LT-23

Oh well.. At least I know now I need something smaller.. Thanks everyone..

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