papaindigo wrote:
You either have a leak in the 1s gen filter head at the fuel heater plug or are pulling in air from 1 or more of the quick disconnect fittings between there and the fuel tank as evidenced by your primer pumping and bleeding comments. This is extremely common. The leak in the 1st gen head at the fuel heater plug may be extremely obvious per Goglio704's comments or it may not be; my experience was a leak that I could only detect by inserting a "Q" tip into the plug and checking it for signs of diesel fuel (the "Q" tip did not get "wet" but it certainly smelled of diesel). You can try the silcone plug per Dennis MacGyver but if there is any diesel fuel contamination in the plug the silcone won't stick; at least it did not for me even with cleaning the plug with carb cleaner.
So what to do:
1. check for leaking at the fuel heater plug (smaller one on driver's side - see Sir Sam's bleeding video for pictures and PN for 2n gen filter head) as noted above. FYI some have found leakage at the bleeder or at the base of the primer pump. IMHO just bit the bullet and get a new 2n gen filter head and pigtail (match pigtail wires to existing wires based on size as the colors don't match) and be done with it. Cost is like $120 but that includes an installed new Mopar fuel filter (worth $30 or so) and a new WIF sensor (save you old sensor just in case). It's an easy DIY install.
2. if the 2n gen filter head doesn't completely solve your problem, it did for me, you can add an in tank or in line fuel pump. The former is ideal but the latter seems to work fine and is an easier install using a Kennedy Duramax pump or a Facet 40109 from
http://www.yachtsupplydepot.com/mechani ... t_697.html either of which can be installed on a "frame" rail back near the fuel tank (in theory this is the best place) on in the engine bay (several have done so and it works just fine - when/if I do this I'll at a transparent replaceable pre-filter just in front of the lift pump to catch anything that might be in the line from the fuel tank and so I can see fuel flow). Alternatively or in addition you can pull the fuel lines and cut out the quick disconnect fittings and replace them with clamps and fuel hose. If you do this be sure to use high quality diesel rated fuel line not the cheap stuff sold at chain auto parts stores. The former runs about $6 a foot at marine supply places vs the latter at ca. $1 a foot but the latter tends to rot quickly. I recommend marine grade that meets SAE J1527 type A1-15 marine (USCG) specs or ISO 7840 Type A-1 such as Shields Series 368 from West Marine.
Thanks for all the idea's!! This started last winter but it warmed up and the problem stopped so I was lazy and ignored it.
I should have mentioned that I have had the fuel heated unplugged for a few years, did it as soon as i heard of the issue it had.
I have also looked for diesel at the plug but I did not see obvious signs of leakage. I will try the q-tip trick for sure.
I am going to order the gen 2 fuel head this week and throw it on, as stated its a good thing to have even if its not the problem!
Thanks for the info on your issue with the fuel head papaindigo, sounds like I have the same issue seeing as I don't see the leak but I bet its there! Also I like the idea of ditching the QD fuel line ends if this doesn't fix it. The comment on the diesel rated fuel lines is helpful seeing as I am sure most places to stock the good fuel hose.
Again thanks for the help!