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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:58 pm 
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Chrysler 300 Diesel Being Considered, Brand Exec Says
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Aaron Foley
Wed, 2013-04-03 05:00

DETROIT – Chrysler is leaning closer to adding another diesel-powered model to its U.S. lineup, this time the fullsize 300 sedan.

Responding to a query by WardsAuto at a recent Automotive Press Assn. luncheon here, the brand’s president and CEO Saad Chehab says the auto maker is investigating the possibility but a firm decision is nowhere close.

The 300, built in Brampton, ON, Canada, is sold in Europe as the Lancia Thema with a diesel option. The engine is built by VM Motori, a longtime Fiat supplier that also designs oil-burners for the Jeep Grand Cherokee and, later this year, the Ram 1500.

“I think that we are in talks about the diesels because the Thema has a diesel in Europe anyway,” Chehab says. “It’s a matter of how much the customer is willing to pay for that premium. That’s the only issue with it.”

Both the Grand Cherokee and 300 are rear-wheel-drive vehicles with 8-speed transmissions, but the Grand Cherokee’s 3.0L, V-6 diesel engine carries a $7,500 premium. “We have to make sure it’s within the reach of people,” Chehab adds.

Asked whether the midsize 200 sedan, due for a significant revamp in 2014, could employ a diesel mill, “it could be an amazing engine there, too,” Chehab replies. “We have that opportunity to do it at any time.”

The current 200 leaves showrooms this year as Chrysler prepares for the refresh. Chehab introduces a limited-edition, ’13.5 model built in collaboration with Carhartt, a Detroit-based industrial clothier, at the luncheon here.

The next 200, which he says is scheduled to retain its nameplate for now, will launch as a ’14 model in the “early part of the next year.” Chehab says Chrysler is weighing whether to debut it at next year’s North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

While giving no hints about the next-generation 200, he does say to expect some aspects of its sport-oriented models – blacked-out grilles, intimidating wheels, fine-tuned interiors – to carry over into the new version.

The 200 has been the centerpiece of the brand’s “Imported From Detroit” marketing campaign that Chehab says won’t be letting up soon, even as the city of Detroit weathers a financial crisis that has forced the state’s governor to appoint an emergency manager.

Chehab says he is not concerned with any negative connotation between the campaign catchphrase and the city’s turmoil. “Where else in the world do you accumulate so many brains and resources that relate to the car business as Detroit does?”

“That’s an asset for us I think we should protect for the future,” he adds. “I think Americans are looking for that story of success somehow, and we should not give up.”


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 Post subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Diesel Being Considered
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$7500 option for the diesel? And they wonder why people dont buy them.


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$7500 option for the diesel? And they wonder why people dont buy them.


"It’s a matter of how much the customer is willing to pay for that premium. That’s the only issue with it."

Correction / translation: "It’s a matter of how much the customer is willing to get raped. We have our profit margins to increase."

I'l believe it when I see it, but I don't think it will ever happen. Much of the $7500 upcharge on the Grand Cherokee is simply profit stacking, and then you have the "mandatory" gold-plated options package that HAS TO BE installed with any diesel - further upping the price.

Who in their right mind would pay close to $70,000 for a CHRYSLER when a Mercedes M or G class is in the same range and has a better support network?

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I agree completely.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Diesel Being Considered
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geordi, perfectly stated.

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300 has always been sold with a diesel option outside the US. Most Chrysler products are sold with a diesel option outside the US. I think the Compass is the only one without.

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doing the same thing with the Grand Cherokee, friggin rape.

I'll take a used Mercedes or Passat TDI in a couple years


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 Post subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Diesel Being Considered
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A 300's starting price is $30k if you add in $7500 for the diesel it really is not such a bad deal. Lets assume with an 8 speed transmission it gets 40+ mpg. That is about the same price as an ugly boring japan car there are 3 or 4 you can pick from and those have gas engines. That would undercut a BWW and Mercedes diesel buy a lot. But would be more than a VW. Not really the same category of car.

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 Post subject: Re: Chrysler 300 Diesel Being Considered
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Now also pick every option and add-on in the book, including the leather seats made from virgin unicorns and solid titanium and platinum trimmed floormats. Don't forget the french wine undercoating applied personally by Gordon Ramsay spitting it all over the underbody, and wiping up any overspray with towels made from only the finest baby seal blankets (They were saved from when he was a baby, long before he married Heidi Klum)

Now... What is the REAL price after Chrysler forces all those options onto you, in addition to the $7500 JUST for the engine?

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A 300's starting price is $30k if you add in $7500 for the diesel it really is not such a bad deal. Lets assume with an 8 speed transmission it gets 40+ mpg. That is about the same price as an ugly boring japan car there are 3 or 4 you can pick from and those have gas engines. That would undercut a BWW and Mercedes diesel buy a lot. But would be more than a VW. Not really the same category of car.


At 40 MPG, the diesel option is paid for in the first year depending on your mileage.

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There is only one problem, IT'S A CHRYSLER!! :banghead:


This is important enough to be said again.


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Two problems: the WK diesel option is $4500, not $7500.
And the 300/Thema diesel for Europe isn't the best seller, so it might not enjoy such a long run like the Grand Cherokee.


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It would be one thing if you could get the diesel engine with the base model but I bet you can't. I'm willing to bet that it will be an option only on the top model that has all the bells and whistles.

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