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 Post subject: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:37 pm 
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My jeep can't get above 40mph has lots of smoke. when stopped in gear idles like its trying to stall when in neutral or park it idles fine(seen at end of video). shifts hard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyf5gf-g0n4


2 months ago i replaced my turbo.
looked at the hoses and turbo and everything seems to be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:07 am 
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Hey I found it

My seal on my drivers side air hose was leaking.

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wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:30 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUIDAQyEEo

So now I have more turbo noise.

I asked my wife (it's her daily driver)

She said it made that noise before it lost its power

I can't find any tears or unseated hoses.

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:40 pm 
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That sounds like an exhaust leak, actually.

By any chance is the pipe that runs to the EGR (from exhaust) leaking?

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:49 pm 
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Mine has been sounding a bit like that too lately. Stopped by the local diesel shop yesterday to see what he thought. He didn't think it was anything to worry about but he also added he didn't drive it every day so he didn't have anything to compare it too. He was thinking something possibly withe the air filter or some loose plastic somewhere. I think if we would have gone for a ride he would have changed his mind. I agree that does sound exhausty, I've looked through my exhaust and haven't seen anything, but I didn't think about that EGR pipe. I'll have to see if I can find somewhere dry around here to look at that tomorrow.

Actually the more I listen to that the more it sounds just like mine. Does it sound like a differential that is being driven on low or no oil? This is as soon as you give it any throttle even in park? The sound I'm getting is between idle and 1,000 rpm ish, and then quiets a little as the revs go up but is definitely still there. If I figure out what mine is I will let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:48 am 
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It makes the noise in neutral or park or while driving.

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:04 pm 
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Same here. I did some looking today at mine, didn't appear to be ERG tube for me at least. I'm going to need to get someone to run the pedal while I listen to try to locate where it's coming from. Best of luck in your search.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:41 am 
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mine sounds like its coming from the turbo...
I hope its not. and if it is i hope its a warrantable issue.
im hopping to find it tomorrow

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:53 pm 
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Looks like I might have an air leak on the turbo intercooler.

Lot of oily soot 3inches away from where the tube connect to go to the turbo.
The plastic fan guard is in the way so I'm going to disasmble soon.

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:41 pm 
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You may have seen this before/have previously taken the shroud off, but if not I found this helpful when having to take mine off to do a serpentine and alternator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbi3rRSEdA4 Keep a magnet near by and if you can a spare socket too. I've dropped mine several times and without fail it bounces off a fan blade and just out of sight under the front off the engine. The only option then is to take the shroud and fan off to retrieve it. Hope that intercooler leak fixes your issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:19 am 
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I found a leak!


The intake boot is seperated at the turbo from the hose clamp.

So where can I find the hose that goes from air box to turbo?

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:29 am 
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air filter box to turbo hose - 53013104AE

Should be about $60.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:42 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhOp4Q3WxQ4

i replaced the intake boot today

and it still makes this @&&! noise :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:34 pm 
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What's making the idle surge like that?

Have you checked the belt and all the pulleys?
If its not the belt or pulleys, I hate to say it but it sounds like the turbo vanes are scraping
the inside of the turbo.
Pull the hoses off the turbo, stick your fingers inside and try to wiggle the turbo shaft.
If you have a lot of movement you will need a new turbo.

Who replaced your turbo last time?
Was it a new turbo or a rebuild?
A new turbo should not go out after two months unless it's not getting oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:49 am 
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what do you mean surging? i had some one on the throttle

there is no play in the turbo

i replaced it.

it doesnt sound like it did previously when the turbo did go out.

and the fins dont have any wear on them.

i hope its not a turbo

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:55 am 
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Ok good.
If there is no play then the turbo is fine.
Check the belt and pulleys.

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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:37 am 
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i tightened a exhaust manifold bolt that was backed out still making the noise...

its going to a mechanic

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repairs
ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Rough idle / shift
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:30 pm 
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It was due to warped manifold.
I now know why the dealer suggests replacing it.

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ujoints yoke
wheel bearing
transmission cooler (currently no cooler)
fuel filter head replaced for sucking air (the piece that the filter attaches to)
normal maintenance.


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