Replacement Turbo choices

jtz54 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:37 pm **Posts:** 73

Looks like I'll be looking for a turbo soon. The OEM Garrett seems to be running $1000+ but I noticed there are replacements on eBay and several part houses that offer a replacement for $600. Anyone have any troubles with the non-Garrett turbos?

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diesel_guy86 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:41 pm

The bolt pattern for our turbos are crd specific. I don't think any other turbo manufacturers make a turbo with our bolt pattern. Garrett/ Honeywell/ AiResearch have been in business making gas turbines for years. Turbos share the exact same principals as gas turbines. That being said I would bet Garrett has the best engineers/ mettalurgists, and researchers designing and building these. You'd be amazed at the theories and studies done on just the bearings.

I'm in the process of converting over to a ball bearing non-vnt turbo. I lose the wide powerband a vnt turbo creates, but I gain a big winner for me, simple. No vacuum lines, no vanes to be plugged up, no electronics, just a simple plain turbo.

LS12FAST4U · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:00 pm

When I get to the point of needing a turbo replacement I plan on going with the GDE turbo kit. More money but I will have a reason to do it once my turbo goes bad. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I won't need a new turbo for at least a year or two though. So far I'm broke after buying a new set of tires and getting my lift.

geordi · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:55 pm

The only replacement options are the genuine Garrett or the turbo from GDE. There are NO other manufacturers that I have heard about that are making anything that will fit.

Rebuilt vnt turbos are not successful because of balance issues (they cannot be properly balanced for the precision they need to spin at 125000 rpm or more) and our turbos DO NOT have a wastegate. Most of the underpriced options on eBay are either incorrect or Chinese knockoffs.

The genuine article is brand new and costs around $1200. No core charge and no core return. Any changes to these terms means there is a problem and what you are buying is not correct in some way.

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jtz54 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:37 pm **Posts:** 73

Thanks geordi, I was wondering if these could be rebuilt. I don't trust the Chinese knockoffs because of all the shortcuts they take. I wish there were more options to these engines!

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jtz54 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:37 pm **Posts:** 73

Just saw a rebuild kit on eBay. Supposedly comes with a balanced turbine assembly that is balanced to 150K rpm. If this replaces the insides of the turbo and is properly balanced don't see why it wouldn't work?

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geordi · **Posted:** Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:45 pm

It could, if the center cartridge has been properly balanced... I don't know that I would trust anyone on eBay however. Be careful and avoid any flavor of china for the source.

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Pokoki · **Joined:** Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:44 am **Posts:** 23

geordi wrote:

The only replacement options are the genuine Garrett or the turbo from GDE. There are NO other manufacturers that I have heard about that are making anything that will fit.

The genuine article is brand new and costs around $1200. No core charge and no core return. Any changes to these terms means there is a problem and what you are buying is not correct in some way.

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What Garrett turbo is a direct replacement for a stock CRD one? The GT3788r?

mass-hole · **Posted:** Tue May 13, 2014 4:18 pm

Pokoki wrote:

geordi wrote:

The only replacement options are the genuine Garrett or the turbo from GDE. There are NO other manufacturers that I have heard about that are making anything that will fit.

The genuine article is brand new and costs around $1200. No core charge and no core return. Any changes to these terms means there is a problem and what you are buying is not correct in some way.

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What Garrett turbo is a direct replacement for a stock CRD one? The GT3788r?

I believe it is the GT2056V

Pokoki · **Joined:** Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:44 am **Posts:** 23

mass-hole wrote:

Pokoki wrote:

geordi wrote:

The only replacement options are the genuine Garrett or the turbo from GDE. There are NO other manufacturers that I have heard about that are making anything that will fit.

The genuine article is brand new and costs around $1200. No core charge and no core return. Any changes to these terms means there is a problem and what you are buying is not correct in some way.

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What Garrett turbo is a direct replacement for a stock CRD one? The GT3788r?

I believe it is the GT2056V

Thanks! Just found the same part number

weeks101 · **Joined:** Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 747

Garrett VNT-2060VB
OE P/N: 5142797AC
Garrett P/N: 763360-5001

I can get you a brand new one for $1,085 + $35 ground shipping.

jtz54 · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:37 pm **Posts:** 73

Anyone heard of turbochargerpros.com ? They offer remanufactured, OEM and their own brand. Guaranteed to fit with a one year warranty for $645 new or $545 reman.

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BigDieselEv · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2014 2:29 am

Sent my original turbo to G-Pop Shop in Arkansas. OEM Garrett kit rebuild and balance for way less than $1,000. 6,000+ miles and running strong.

www.gopopshop.com

mjk · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2014 7:01 pm

I purchased a rebuilt turbo from XS Boost about 25,000 miles ago, less than half of new and couldn't be happier with the results.

DOC4444 · **Posted:** Tue May 20, 2014 7:01 am

That gopop link goes to a site that sells cell phones.

DOC

Mountainman · **Posted:** Tue May 20, 2014 10:04 am

I looked at various rebuilt options, and I'm a cheap sensored word, but ultimately I decided it's not worth the risk of destroying a $5k engine (more like $7k if you have to pay for install), for 5-$600 in "savings". Weeks101 has the best price around. Go new OEM and sleep well :2cents:

TURBO-DIESEL-FREAK · **Joined:** Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:29 pm **Posts:** 1167

What about the reliability of the GDE choice, and who makes that turbo?

The way I recall Kieth explaining it to me, it is totally superior to the O.E.M. turbo. If I recall correctly, (and sometimes I have to wonder :roll:

), the GDE unit is smaller and therefore spools up much faster, therefore giving you a better hit at low RPMs. The kicker is that it also spools up to a higher RPM, giving you a better hit at high RPMs as well. The variable vanes or venturi are/is electrically controlled, thus eliminating problems that vacuum actuated variable components cause.

What have you fellows heard?

Jeff

diesel_guy86 · **Posted:** Thu May 22, 2014 5:57 pm

That turbo is a gt1749 I believe. Has the same size compressor wheel with a smaller turbine wheel. Like you said it let's it spin up faster to deliver more air. The electronically controlled ones have issues just like the vacuum actuated ones, stripped gears, frayed wires etc. I would rather have the electronic one any day over the vacuum.

weeks101 · **Joined:** Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 747

The GDE one is a Garrett GT1756V. Used on the VM engines from 2008-2011 model years in Europe. It uses electronic actuation rather than vacuum. He also has created a separate tune for this turbo on our engines.

TURBO-DIESEL-FREAK · **Joined:** Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:29 pm **Posts:** 1167

diesel_guy86 wrote:

That turbo is a gt1749 I believe. Has the same size compressor wheel with a smaller turbine wheel. Like you said it let's it spin up faster to deliver more air. The electronically controlled ones have issues just like the vacuum actuated ones, stripped gears, frayed wires etc. I would rather have the electronic one any day over the vacuum.

diesel_guy86:

So, if I am to understand you clearly regarding reliability - electronically controlled verses vacuum controlled; both have their problems, but the problems with vacuum actuated units are way worse than the electronically actuated ones; yes?

I know the vacuum ones can cause problems for sure...especially when made to work with EGR and crankcase ventings. I have had no less than 4 of the vacuum solenoids replace on one of my CRDs.
:furious:

How bad are the electronic controlled ones, really? Is there anything I can do maintenance-wise to make the electronic ones more reliable?

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