That was the dumbest article I have ever read. So many people just try to find something to complain about. This was not an article on rolling coal it was an article on politics and why one gr o up is better then the other.

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OME 2790/2948 Rancho all around
JBA strut plates with clevis lift
2 extra rear upper isolators and one extra lower
Front sits 23
Rear sits 22 3/4
265 75 16 Maxxis Big Horn MT
GDE Hot Tune
Bumper trimming up front

I beg to differ sir on both of your points; attacking a persons intelligence because they have a different opinion of the subject matter does nothing to further an intelligent discussion of the subject at hand.
EPA has a lot less to do with clean air now-days, it just happens to be a byproduct in today's environment; FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!! I do believe they started out with good intentions at the start; they just got very corrupt & greedy and their ideology changed somewhere along the way!!!!! Politics ruined them!

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05 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited
Ironman Springs/Bilstein/Shocks
Yeti StgIV Hot Tune
Week's BatteryTray
No FCV/EGR
Samcos/ProVent
SunCoast/Transgo
Carter Intank-pmp
2mic.Sec.Fuel Filter
Flowmaster/NO CAT
V6Airbox/noVH
GM11 Bld.fan/HDClutch
IronrockArms/wwdieselMount
98 Dodge Cummins 24 Valve

I heard an interesting story this morning.

A guy from Colorado went to California to buy a semi that didn't have the new emissions equipment installed that would allow it to be used in CA. (seems there are a lot of used trucks out there that are being sold because it's not worth the investment to upgrade them)

The guy picks up the truck and is almost to the NV border a CHP officer pulls him over and tells him he driving an illegal vehicle. The guy says it's in transit to CO; cop says sorry no can do... The guy from CO offers to call a tow truck and have the semi towed to the NV border...cop says ' no, I'm calling a tow truck and having the truck impounded"

That was three weeks ago, the guy still doesn't have the truck or his money.

I wonder if they treat the NAFTA truckers the same way?

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#1 2006 Silver CRD Limited, flipped spare tire, ASFIR skids, GDE TCM & Ecotune, blue SAMCOs, 5V glow plugs, Rotella T6, intank fuel pump, Gen2 fuel head, new crank sensor, JBA 2.5 in silver package, Provent and ARB bumper
#2 2006 Metallic Green Limited; currently DOA
#3 2005 Silver project; currently not running...don't judge me

WOW! Us Americans really need to pull out heads out of our arses and stop putting dictators in political office.

OTOH I did see a Honda civic with a sticker on the front bumper that said Ca. emissions friendly, I thought it looked ga_y , but maybe that sticker is required there?

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2006 LTD Bright Silver loaded with all the needed mods, CCV intact.
Proudly supporting CRD vendors, and their development of quality parts and accessories.
Equipped with HDS thermostat, plenty of heat, faster warm-ups, increased fuel mileage.

CA has the toughest emissions regulations in the country.
I remember back in the 90's, truckers would get ticketed for blowing black smoke.
Even while driving up a steep grade!
If you think the EPA is bad, CARB is even worse (and more corrupt).

When our CRDs were first available for sale, none were available for sale in CA.
The only way to get one was to buy a used one from out of state.
(they were also not for sale in NY, VT, and ME)

Obviously, NAFTA truckers dont drive through CA.

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Kalifornia, the land of many opportunities. Not surprising, if you vote for Pelosi, Feinstein and the likes, this is what you get, a bunch of politicians that seems to always forget taking their meds. CARB is mostly a result of such twisted minds... They should pay people to get the polluting trucks out, and put police escorts to make sure they can do it fast.

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2005 kj CRD, samco, suncoast tc, provent, Kennedy lift pump, GDE ECO full torque, 2nd gen filter head, 245/70/16 a/t tires, mopar light bar, fumoto oil valve, OEM Skid Plates, ARB Front bumper and HD OME, tru cool LPD47391 40k GVW tranny cooler (stock cooler delete), FF Dynamics e-fan and shroud, rocker arms replaced, HDS2 190F thermostat.

Surprisingly, CA is very friendly to the classic car crowd.
You can drive your 1970, big block, CO belching, flaming metal deathtrap, with no emissions
control devices, every day and never need a smog check.

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I bet you that's because most celebrities and rich folks have those nice toys, I think CA has the most classic cars and the most expensive ones in the nation.

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2005 kj CRD, samco, suncoast tc, provent, Kennedy lift pump, GDE ECO full torque, 2nd gen filter head, 245/70/16 a/t tires, mopar light bar, fumoto oil valve, OEM Skid Plates, ARB Front bumper and HD OME, tru cool LPD47391 40k GVW tranny cooler (stock cooler delete), FF Dynamics e-fan and shroud, rocker arms replaced, HDS2 190F thermostat.

The classic car lobby in CA is pretty strong.
Lots of buisnesess that cater to classic car parts and restorations. Lots of money involved.

Classic cars are more expensive there for two reasons:
1. Most of them do not turn into rust buckets. And because of that, they are well maintained
and still driven every day.
2. Many rich people from other countries come to CA to buy a classic car and bring it back to
their home country (because of #1). This drives up the price.

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They have no choice as there was no emission laws to enforce for those years.They have however changed the emission standards for late '70's and '80's vehicles trying to get them off the road.In the big picture there are very few pre-emission vehicles on the road compared to OBDII vehicles.

I think rolling coal is a stupid waste of fuel and it makes the public that in general are not well educated about how clean a diesel vehicle can be against them. I would say that statement is mostly directed at drivers in the states. Europe and elsewhere have a good mix of gas a diesel cars on the roads. Here people see them as slow noisy dirty and due to GM's past failures unreliable in cars. that image needs to change.

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2006 Liberty CRD Limited Deep Beryl Green Metallic Clear coat, Fumoto valve, MH ProVent (removed), GDE Eco tune,
OME 790/948 springs, OME struts, OME N132L shocks, Jeepin by Al A-arms, Hercules Terra Trac AT2 245/75R16
Weeks Stage 1 EGR delete, 5 volt steel glow plugs

My fiances Subaru Legacy is one of the PZEV(partial zero emissions vehicle) versions which I believe was an effort to appease California. They just sold them everywhere since they don't make a lot of cars. It has like 18 CATs on it and the tune is adjusted so that it runs extremely rich when it first starts in order to get the CATs up to temperature as quickly as possible. The side effect is that it runs like garbage and the whole car shakes causing all the heat shields to buzz and rattle for about 5 minutes.



They didnt sell them in MA either. The one i did find in MA spent it's entire life there. Based on the car fax, it looks like they had someone buy it for them in Oregon and then sell it to them "used" with 5 miles on it. It was pretty funny to see. I didnt end up buying that one since it was ~$3000 overpriced but I ended up having to drive 6 hrs to PA to get the one I have.

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2006 CRD - GTB2056 turbo by Dieselguy86, Eco Trans Tune, Lift Pump, Week's, HDS Tstat, Racor Filter, ARP's, OME 790's+Top Plate, JBA 2.5", JBA UCA, Moab's+265/75R16, ARB Bull Bar, 4.10's, TrueTracs

No that is just how flat engines normally are and they don't have "18 cats" or special programming to run rich(rich equals higher bad emissions).


On gas engines the worst emissions are start at 16:1+ fuel/air ratio and 12:1 and leaner.

No, you are right, it is not 18, I was being sarcastic. It does have 3 though, which is 2 more than my Legacy GT of the same vintage which doesnt start up and sound like a paint can full of marbles. It also hasn't been recalled twice for engine reprogramming to fix the issues mentioned above.

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2006 CRD - GTB2056 turbo by Dieselguy86, Eco Trans Tune, Lift Pump, Week's, HDS Tstat, Racor Filter, ARP's, OME 790's+Top Plate, JBA 2.5", JBA UCA, Moab's+265/75R16, ARB Bull Bar, 4.10's, TrueTracs

3 cats for a multi bank OBDII engine is the norm.Your other legacy is OBDI so does not monitor the cats,hence only having 1.

Boy, this thread got off-topic, di'n't?

I understand that "rolling coal" is slang for modifying your diesel to dump excess fuel and make tons of thick black smoke on demand. I quite agree that it is a stupid thing to do, but I do sympathize with a desire to do it from time to time, when the guy behind you has been being a jerk.

My CRD doesn't smoke any more than any of yours. If you drive it very gently for a a week or two, then do a pedal-to-the-metal acceleration, you'll get a tiny little puff of smoke as you blow out accumulated carbon. But that's as far as that goes for me.

Except once. And it was quite by accident.

Wife and I had driven the CRD all the way to the peak on Going To The Sun Road in Glacier NP. For those who've never been there, it's 20-25 miles of a fairly steady climb on a narrow 2-lane road. Going back down the mountain in 45 degree weather was a lengthy coast. As you probably know, modern engines shut off all fuel when coasting in gear. Given the distance, the huge congestion, and the tightness of the corners, that 20-25 mile coast took about an hour, and the entire way there was this knucklehead right on my bumper the whole way down. When I got to the bottom, I failed to notice that the engine had cooled to stone-cold, and when I stepped on the go-pedal, I got a black cloud the size of a small apartment building. It was so thick, you couldn't see 3 feet. Most embarrassing. But when the CRD stopped pumping it out, Jerk-Boy behind me was WAAAAAY back there, sitting by the side of the road, no doubt coughing.

Scared me, I thought I'd blown the engine, but glancing down at the gauges, I saw the problem on the temp gauge.