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Author:  Franko [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Trans slow to go into gear.

06 CRD with 133KM NOT MILES.
So the first start of the day/morning when I put the jeep in D or R it seems to hesitate and takes a few seconds before it goes into gear.
Any real reason for this? Fluid seems to be at the right level when I checked it.
Thanks

Author:  papaindigo [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

Assume you have done your timing belt job. If not park it until it's done IMHO; I know it's a bit early by miles but it's past due by age which IMHO is not much more than 6 years.

As to your tranny that's is the well known issue of transmission fluid drain back that DCJ vehicles have had for decades. Solution(s)
1. live with it - at first startup after being parked for 6+ hrs crank up, shift to neutral, hold high idle (1200-1500rpm), shift into gear and drive. If it still hesitates on any given start repeat. You don't always have to do this as the problem can be intermittent; if so whenever you get the hesitation do the idle step.
2. hope the issue is the tranny filter drain back valve, which it often is - service tranny with name brand filters (both of them) and ATF+4 fluid. Problem may go away per an old TSB on the subject.
3. might be transmission pump leakdown due to wear - long term solution is to replace with upgraded pump but that means pulling tranny which I wouldn't bother to do unless replacing torque converter. So if 1 doesn't do it 3 sure will but before going that far do 1 while you collect $s.

I lived with 1 for ca. 20k miles until SunCoast did a torque converter and Transgo kit install. No problems since

Author:  flash7210 [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

Its just one of those wierd quirks that can be classified as "normal."
It happens to me too.

It seems that after being parked for a while, all the fluid drains out of the case and into the pan.
Which means some check valve somewhere isnt working.
Many have had this problem and a few have tried to fix it, but as far as I know, no one has
been successfull.

The only solution I know that works is, before you drive off, put the trans in N and let it idle for
a min to allow fluid to be pumped back up into the case. Then put into D or R and everything
should work fine.

Author:  Franko [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

Great thanks for the tips, just wanted to make sure that I wasn't hurting anything or going to kill the trans.
Oh and yes will be doing a TB soon, before summers end.

Author:  WWDiesel [ Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

The shift to neutral trick at first startup does work! Another trick is to slightly overfill the tyranny with ATF+4 so the level is slightly above the full mark when cold. This seems to help the hesitation at first startup after setting for awhile.....
It seems to be a common problem with these transmission in all Chrysler products....
:SOMBRERO:

Author:  Drewd [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

Drop pan and replace both filters. Refill with fresh fluid and your problem should go away. Drainback issue or cracked at seam flat filter not uncommon.

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Author:  dgeist [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trans slow to go into gear.

Drewd wrote:
Drop pan and replace both filters. Refill with fresh fluid and your problem should go away. Drainback issue or cracked at seam flat filter not uncommon.

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x3. Make sure you get the newest Mopar units for the filters. Mine had this issue a few fluid changes ago and it seemed to correspond to the period during which I had done my own filter change with some "OEM spec" filters I bought online. Also, whether you do it or you pay a shop, make sure they use actual Mopar (or valvoline, as it's the OEM) for ATF+4. It really does work better than the no-name ATF+4 and it's not that much more expensive every 48280 ks (see what I did there :)

Apparently when you pay for the Mopar label, you're paying for the lack of drainback :wink:

Dan

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