COOLING FAN

cruiserfreak · **Joined:** Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:03 pm **Posts:** 17

The Electric fan on my CRD is toast. Want to remove mechanical and go with just electric. I see that there is mounting points for an electric fan on the inside of the radiator. Anyone found the fan that will fit on these mounts?

Thanks

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:19 am

I would also be interested in a fan that does not attach to the radiator core. I had problems with radiator damage on 2 different vehicles - 1977 Dodge concord motor home and 1989 GMC Suburban - with transmission coolers mounted to the radiator core. Eventually the both radiator cores failed.
They were both several years down the road, but I intend to keep the Jeep several years if I ever get it straightened out. So far this is the worst money pit vehicle I have ever had.

Rich · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:50 pm

There is a hd cooling kit for the gassers that places am electric (unknown flow rate) inside the fan shroud to work with the 12 blade nylon fan. Individual part numbers are available in the parts book that is floating around the web in .pdf.

If it were me, and it someday might, I would just police up a 3.8l Taurus fan and a dual speed spal fan controller, and be done with it.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:06 pm

Is the Taurus fan is better than this:?

Would this be more of a direct bolt in item?

Would this be more than sufficient?

82206937

http://www.moparpartssource.com/p/Mopar ... _StockCode

thermorex · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:15 pm

Rich is pretty much right with the Taurus fan, lots of Cherokees adapted that fan, I believe it has something like 3500-3800 cfm, one of the best for that size. Plus is relatively cheap, not sure if the shroud can be used as is or something bigger should be fabed...

thermorex · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:21 pm

jrsavoie wrote:

Is the Taurus fan is better than this:?

Would this be more of a direct bolt in item?

Would this be more than sufficient?

82206937

http://www.moparpartssource.com/p/Mopar ... _StockCode

If you don't care spending about 350-400 bucks, get the ff dynamics fan and shroud and the variable speed controller from summit, other than few wires(which you actually need for any e-fan, more or less) and side brackets for the shroud, it's the easiest option for an e-fan imo. The Taurus is great if you don't mind spending some time adapting it, and finding a good spot so the fan motor won't touch engine accessories.

I trust more either one of the two options than whatever mopar made for the jeep gasser...

flash7210 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:34 pm

What's so special about the Taurus electric fan?

thermorex · **Posted:** Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:05 pm

flash7210 wrote:

What's so special about the Taurus electric fan?

Price, you can get it from junkyard, and cfm numbers. Also, dual speed. Easy to adapt on Cherokee, where I first heard about it. Not sure how involving is to adapt it on crd, I think the height of the shroud is not enough, but with a good welder, it's easy enough to modify it.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:43 pm

It's been a while and I am closer to installing an electric fan kit?

iS there a kit out yet that does NOT hang off the radiator core?

Or would somebody be willing to put together a kit for a price?

I have a bunch of projects and figuring and finding everything I need is the most time consuming.

Installation is usually the easy part

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=64982&p=883257#p883257

flash7210 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:10 pm

There should already be a electric cooling fan in front of your radiator. For me it works just fine.
But there is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-LIBERTY-CRD-DIESEL-FF-DYNAMICS-EXTREME-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN-KIT-MPG-CUSTOM-/111775276638?hash=item1a06535e5e:m:mKBiV-nXOYopg80CSoN42zQ&vxp=mtr
It would replace the factory engine driven fan and the factory electric fan.
At least one member here has installed it and seems satisfied.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:59 am

flash7210 wrote:

There should already be a electric cooling fan in front of your radiator. For me it works just fine.
But there is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-LIBERTY-CRD-DIESEL-FF-DYNAMICS-EXTREME-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN-KIT-MPG-CUSTOM-/111775276638?hash=item1a06535e5e:m:mKBiV-nXOYopg80CSoN42zQ&vxp=mtr
It would replace the factory engine driven fan and the factory electric fan.
At least one member here has installed it and seems satisfied.

My fan clutch seems to be going bad. I will only replace it with an electric fan kit.

The fan kit you linked is the kit that hangs off the radiator fins. I had issues with 2 vehicles doing that before. I will not do it again. It's bad enough to learn a lesson twice. I will not be taught the same lesson again.

I talked to the guy to find out if he had a way of mounting the kit that did not involve hanging the fan off of the radiator coils. He was a total Richard. Not just my opinion. Apparently his reputation precedes him. I got a lot of results when I googled his name and then found him on forums. What a total booty.

But I am still looking for a kit or somebody willing to do the install or set up a kit and sell it to me. I do not care what it is, as long as it works trouble free.

WWDiesel · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:00 pm

A mechanical option: :wink:

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82941&hilit

thermorex · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:17 pm

jrsavoie wrote:

flash7210 wrote:

There should already be a electric cooling fan in front of your radiator. For me it works just fine.
But there is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-LIBERTY-CRD-DIESEL-FF-DYNAMICS-EXTREME-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN-KIT-MPG-CUSTOM-/111775276638?hash=item1a06535e5e:m:mKBiV-nXOYopg80CSoN42zQ&vxp=mtr
It would replace the factory engine driven fan and the factory electric fan.
At least one member here has installed it and seems satisfied.

My fan clutch seems to be going bad. I will only replace it with an electric fan kit.

The fan kit you linked is the kit that hangs off the radiator fins. I had issues with 2 vehicles doing that before. I will not do it again. It's bad enough to learn a lesson twice. I will not be taught the same lesson again.

I talked to the guy to find out if he had a way of mounting the kit that did not involve hanging the fan off of the radiator coils. He was a total Richard. Not just my opinion. Apparently his reputation precedes him. I got a lot of results when I googled his name and then found him on forums. What a total booty.

But I am still looking for a kit or somebody willing to do the install or set up a kit and sell it to me. I do not care what it is, as long as it works trouble free.

That fan is what I have. You need to fab 2 brackets and secure it in the shroud holes, on the side of the intercooler. Fabing the brackets is very easy, all you need is a tape measure, drill and a metal saw.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:27 pm

thermorex wrote:

jrsavoie wrote:

flash7210 wrote:

There should already be a electric cooling fan in front of your radiator. For me it works just fine.
But there is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-LIBERTY-CRD-DIESEL-FF-DYNAMICS-EXTREME-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN-KIT-MPG-CUSTOM-/111775276638?hash=item1a06535e5e:m:mKBiV-nXOYopg80CSoN42zQ&vxp=mtr
It would replace the factory engine driven fan and the factory electric fan.
At least one member here has installed it and seems satisfied.

My fan clutch seems to be going bad. I will only replace it with an electric fan kit.

The fan kit you linked is the kit that hangs off the radiator fins. I had issues with 2 vehicles doing that before. I will not do it again. It's bad enough to learn a lesson twice. I will not be taught the same lesson again.

I talked to the guy to find out if he had a way of mounting the kit that did not involve hanging the fan off of the radiator coils. He was a total Richard. Not just my opinion. Apparently his reputation precedes him. I got a lot of results when I googled his name and then found him on forums. What a total booty.

But I am still looking for a kit or somebody willing to do the install or set up a kit and sell it to me. I do not care what it is, as long as it works trouble free.

That fan is what I have. You need to fab 2 brackets and secure it in the shroud holes, on the side of the intercooler. Fabing the brackets is very easy, all you need is a tape measure, drill and a metal saw.

Could you get me any more pictures? And / or blow up the pictures of your clips? I can not make the pictures you attached big enough to get a good look at the clips.

Since it sounds like it can easily be mounted in that manner, I will order one. Sounds like the easiest route to go. The least amount of shopping and fabbing. I have plenty of aluminum and stainless here to fab up what I need.

Since my health problems I have more problems figuring things out and designing stuff. The fact that my vision has eroded over the years doesn't help much. The last couple of times I had the TIG welder out, I made a mess before I got things under control.

Thank you much for the advice.

I don't know why Mr. Happy could not have just told me that when I talked to him. I would have bought one a long time ago. It still irritates the heck out of me that he was such an obnoxious fool when I tried ordering the first time.

He was all about just hang it from the radiator core, it won't hurt anything and then he got all ignorant with me when I told him I would never mount anything like that again. Especially something as heavy as the fan unit.

Another objection I had to the kit was paying that much and then having to do an unknown amount of Fab work to install it.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Tue May 31, 2016 9:18 pm

The Richard head did not like my posts so he blocked me from buying from him. He is indeed a @#$#%^

I am questioning the claims of a 2mpg gain with the fan. I have been running with only the front electric fan for quite some time now and noticed no difference in mpg's at all.

But then I have always questioned why 26 mpg is the absolute best we have ever done. We check the mileage every tank full. We are generally between 21 and 24 mpg

Dent · **Joined:** Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:05 pm **Posts:** 275

It is my understanding that the ebay vendor is not the same company as FF Dynamics, but the ebay guy is an authorized vendor for FF Dynamics. So if you want the fan kit, buy it from the one of the two that you did not have trouble with. I was going to buy from the ebay vendor that Thermorex suggested, but I called FF Dynamics, and they sold me the kit directly for the same or slightly better price than the ebay vendor.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:50 am

Dent wrote:

It is my understanding that the ebay vendor is not the same company as FF Dynamics, but the ebay guy is an authorized vendor for FF Dynamics. So if you want the fan kit, buy it from the one of the two that you did not have trouble with. I was going to buy from the ebay vendor that Thermorex suggested, but I called FF Dynamics, and they sold me the kit directly for the same or slightly better price than the ebay vendor.

Thanks

I will give them a call. How do you call FF Dynamics? I could not find a phone number anywhere.

Did the kit include everything needed for the install?

viewtopic.php?f=98&t=77542

Dent · **Joined:** Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:05 pm **Posts:** 275

I went back through my emails, and it seems I did not call them. All of my communication was handled by email. info@ffdynamics.com
http://ffdynamics.com/products/jeep-lib ... -4-extreme

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