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 Post subject: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:24 am 
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Hello folks, I just picked up a 2005 kj with engine issues. I bought this rig after years of happy ownership of multiple VW tdi's. I now need a vehicle I can use for hunting, exploring Oregon's backwoods and the normal family jaunts. I bought this KJ that had been fixed up a bit with a lift, bumper and a bunch of the usual mods. I'lkl post some pic's once I get her back together. I bought it with the head off and partially diagnosed.
It appears that it was leaking coolant on the #4 cylinder. #4 had a fairly scored sleeve and the rings were pretty fouled up with oil and sut. I have removed and replaced the liners, rings #4 piston and rod bearings.
My problem is that I have broken the very delicate oil ring a couple times now. I was trying to install by hand without a ring compressor. My plan is to rent the type from Oreilly's that rolls up tight around the rings and piston this go around. Have any of you experienced this ring being super brittle and easy to break? any recommendations???

Also, How do you press in and out the piston end rod bushing's anybody have a correct method.

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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:15 pm 
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quickcut wrote:
Hello folks, I just picked up a 2005 kj with engine issues. I bought this rig after years of happy ownership of multiple VW tdi's. I now need a vehicle I can use for hunting, exploring Oregon's backwoods and the normal family jaunts. I bought this KJ that had been fixed up a bit with a lift, bumper and a bunch of the usual mods. I'lkl post some pic's once I get her back together. I bought it with the head off and partially diagnosed.
It appears that it was leaking coolant on the #4 cylinder. #4 had a fairly scored sleeve and the rings were pretty fouled up with oil and sut. I have removed and replaced the liners, rings #4 piston and rod bearings.
My problem is that I have broken the very delicate oil ring a couple times now. I was trying to install by hand without a ring compressor. My plan is to rent the type from Oreilly's that rolls up tight around the rings and piston this go around. Have any of you experienced this ring being super brittle and easy to break? any recommendations???

Also, How do you press in and out the piston end rod bushing's anybody have a correct method.

Welcome to the forum
Read thru this, where you will also find the link to the '05 and '06 KJ Field Service Manuals for easy downloading:

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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:22 pm 
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The only prob is the abyss states using a special VM tool. I'm hoping for a less expensive method. Thx for the direction to the manuals though.


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:55 pm 
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LISLE (LYSLE ?) and others, incl HARBOR FREIGHT, offer rod-bushing drifts and piston-ring expanders in various sizes at very low pricing, way below Miller, OTC, and other oem suppliers - can be found on-line and in most auto-parts emporiums

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'05 CRD Limited
Pricol EGT, Boost
GDE Hot '11; EDGE Trail switched
SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
Four in a row really makes it go


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:55 pm 
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Harbor freight sells a piston ring compressor that coils up around the piston. It worked great for me. Good luck using anything else, those oil rings have a ton of pressure. The Harbor freight tool makes this a joke.


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:14 pm 
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The picture shows the same tool that is available for rent at the auto parts store. Looks like I will give that a try. Thx


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:21 pm 
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Image.
Are there 2 of these on your guy's head's? I only have one. And see they the exact same?
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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:15 am 
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The tool above worked out and I do believe there are two of those oil passages. FYI


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:28 pm 
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quickcut wrote:
Hello folks, I just picked up a 2005 kj with engine issues. I bought this rig after years of happy ownership of multiple VW tdi's. I now need a vehicle I can use for hunting, exploring Oregon's backwoods and the normal family jaunts. I bought this KJ that had been fixed up a bit with a lift, bumper and a bunch of the usual mods. I'lkl post some pic's once I get her back together. I bought it with the head off and partially diagnosed.
It appears that it was leaking coolant on the #4 cylinder. #4 had a fairly scored sleeve and the rings were pretty fouled up with oil and sut. I have removed and replaced the liners, rings #4 piston and rod bearings.
My problem is that I have broken the very delicate oil ring a couple times now. I was trying to install by hand without a ring compressor. My plan is to rent the type from Oreilly's that rolls up tight around the rings and piston this go around. Have any of you experienced this ring being super brittle and easy to break? any recommendations???

Also, How do you press in and out the piston end rod bushing's anybody have a correct method.


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 Post subject: Re: Piston ring install problems on the VM 2.8
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Have a question. 05 card abs module is toast will that affect the fuelmilage and spedo reading . dodge does not make module for 2.8 anymore, just wondering


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