Hey, when I was under and around the front suspension last week for my front brake rebuild, I noticed the gap in the control arm and the rubber stop was only a couple inches.. This is when the full weight was on the tire too.. not hanging from a jack.

Anybody know how or where to measure to see what kind of sag in the front springs? is it this gap, or is there a measurement from a frame point and the ground?

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2006 KJ CRD, bought 9/11/14, 70,500 miles. Circulating Rotella T6 5w-40
11-3-14 oem stat installed
11-5-14 gen II FH installed.
Sasquatch elbow kit, samcos, GDE eco FT. 11-26-14
80,500 miles, engine is disassembled, awaiting parts 3/18
Budget?? Sure! 'Everything I have'.
New "Pet" name for My Jeep; 'Soul Sucker'

center of your hub to the fender.

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2012 Jeep Liberty KK 109k miles and stong
4" lift.
Gen 5.5 A-Arms
Maxxis 31x10.50x15
ATS42rle

Thanks, would you happen to know the spec of stock ride height should be?

edit, after a quick search.. I came up with 19 for front, 19.5 rear.. sound about right?

If I'm facing a sagged out spring, are these better on v-6's too?? (such as the better lower ball joint is better on the v-6's)

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2006 KJ CRD, bought 9/11/14, 70,500 miles. Circulating Rotella T6 5w-40
11-3-14 oem stat installed
11-5-14 gen II FH installed.
Sasquatch elbow kit, samcos, GDE eco FT. 11-26-14
80,500 miles, engine is disassembled, awaiting parts 3/18
Budget?? Sure! 'Everything I have'.
New "Pet" name for My Jeep; 'Soul Sucker'

not sure why your trying to say about the springs, but as for the height measure it when 100% of the weight is on the frame. I have a KK, so im not much use here on the CRD side of things.

id say its time for new springs. there's plenty of CRD postings here on sagging springs and others.

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2012 Jeep Liberty KK 109k miles and stong
4" lift.
Gen 5.5 A-Arms
Maxxis 31x10.50x15
ATS42rle

The FSM has very good details about how to measure suspension specs for the KJ and what they should be.

DOC

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