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 Post subject: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:09 pm 
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On our 07 KJ crd, 30mins running at 70mph and the temp gauge looks like this
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rarely gets above the 10 o'clock mark, and fuel economy compared to our '03 crd is about 5MPG down.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:19 pm 
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Sure looks like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:27 pm 
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job for the weekend. Seen the replacement thread, but how many hours to change one out, less than 2?

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1999 4litre WG, +4.5" IRO long arm lift
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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:46 pm 
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Yes, most definitely.

I can help you with this problem... and it is a problem, I assure you.

You are not getting all of the power, fuel economy and reliability your CRD engine is capable of because the engine is operating at way too low a temperature. A diesel engines must run hot in order to take full advantage of its inherent efficiency over a gasoline engine.

I started a small manufacturing company to deal with this exact problem on the Liberty CRD. Here is my product...

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:51 pm 
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steve@offroading.net wrote:
job for the weekend. Seen the replacement thread, but how many hours to change one out, less than 2?

Probably.

Only three bolts but the bottom bolt can be a pain to get to.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:59 pm 
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flash7210 wrote:
steve@offroading.net wrote:
job for the weekend. Seen the replacement thread, but how many hours to change one out, less than 2?

Probably.

Only three bolts but the bottom bolt can be a pain to get to.



About the only things that would likely slow you down are opening the radiator drain, and scraping off the thermostat-to-engine gasket. My product comes with complete installation instructions.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:47 pm 
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Actually there are 4 bolts. 3 where the tstat bolts to the head and 1 on top of the tstat that secures it to a "L" bracket. The lower back one in the head is impossible to see and there is a slight hump in front of the bolt that makes access difficult. I found that a 1/4" socket extension clears that hump much better than a 3/8" and reduces the possibility of cross threading the bolt in the aluminum head. Also tread all 4 bolt in before you start snugging them down. Precise torque is not needed just good and tight not godzilla.

For me getting that lower back bolt started before the others works best if you can hold it in place with the socket and extension while you move the tstat up to the head you can just see the bolt threads which helps get them in hole and started.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:07 pm 
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Thanks for the tip, picked up a new stat housing at my local parts store for not alot, will get it done tomorrow

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1999 4litre WG, +4.5" IRO long arm lift
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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:21 pm 
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steve@offroading.net wrote:
Thanks for the tip, picked up a new stat housing at my local parts store for not alot, will get it done tomorrow

I never use the rad breather when I replace thermostat. Just let it idle for a good while and keep an eye on the coolant level in the expansion reservoir, may need to add some fluid. It will burp all the air by itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad thermostat?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:39 pm 
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well that went easy :BANANA: About an hour all in, now runs at the right temp and doesn't leave a cloud of smoke when you floor it. Will fill it up tomorrow and see how far a tank lasts now.

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1999 4litre WG, +4.5" IRO long arm lift
2007 export KJ Cherokee 2.8 Ltd, Family wagon
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