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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:12 am 
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Is it worth paying for the better transmission oil, what do you recommend?

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:42 am 
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The 545 transmission is recommended to ONLY use ATF+4, and people have reported problems using anything else. The KJ also uses ATF+4 in the transfer case and the power steering system. If you want to take the chance and use something else, thats up to you - its your vehicle and your money for any repairs.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:04 pm 
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I've only ever used ATF+4 in any of my Chrysler products, and it isn't that expensive. Just get one that says fully synthetic, so you aren't getting a blend or standard mineral oil, and you should be good to go.

Be aware, the transmission dipstick is too long and hits the bottom of the pan, so when the stick says "full" you are actually LOW. You may need to add at least 2 more quarts to get the performance where it feels smooth.

Anytime there is a question about transmission performance on these, start by adding a quart of ATF+4 and drive again. If the problem remains, add a second quart. If the problem still remains, THEN look for other outside indicators. The transmission is huge and can easily handle a couple extra quarts of juice, most of them aren't filled up enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:17 pm 
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The 545 transmission is recommended to ONLY use ATF+4, and people have reported problems using anything else. The KJ also uses ATF+4 in the transfer case and the power steering system. If you want to take the chance and use something else, thats up to you - its your vehicle and your money for any repairs.

While I don't recommend mixing fluids the transfer case is not particular about its ATF. Older models were spec'ed out to use dex merc III.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:34 pm 
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I think Op asked if it is worth paying more $$$ for various brands of atf+4. I got the Napa bottled atf+4, which is a tad cheaper than valvoline bottled atf+4. As long as it is atf+4, it's your choice what brand you prefer, but as long as it meets atf+4 standards, you're good to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:55 pm 
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Brand Name Supplier Fluid Type Region

Advance Auto Parts ATF+4® Advance Stores Company Inc. ATF+4® Global
Amalie ATF+4® Amalie Oil Co. ATF+4® Global
AutoPride ATF+4® Ashland Inc. ATF+4® Global
Auto Extra ATF+4® Ashland Inc. ATF+4® Global
AutoZone ATF+4® AutoZone Parts Inc. ATF+4® Global
Carquest ATF+4® CQ Sourcing Inc. ATF+4® N.America
Castrol ATF+4® BP Lubricants USA Inc. ATF+4® Global
Castrol Transmax ATF+4® BP Lubricants USA Inc. ATF+4® Global
Castrol Transmax +4 ATF+4® BP Lubricants USA Inc. ATF+4® Global
Chevron ATF+4® Chevron Products Company ATF+4® N.America / S.America
CITGO Transgard ATF+4® CITGO Petroleum Corporation ATF+4® N.America
Federated Auto Parts ATF+4® Federated Auto Parts ATF+4® Global
Great Wall ATF+4® Lubricant Company Sinopec Corp. ATF+4® Global
Havoline ATF+4® Chevron Products Company ATF+4® N.America / S.America
MAG 1 ATF+4® Warren Performance Products ATF+4® Global
Mobil ATF+4® Exxon Mobil Corporation ATF+4® N.America / S.America / Mexico
Mopar ATF+4® FCA US LLC ATF+4® Global
Motomaster ATF+4® Motomaster Canada ATF+4® N. America
Motorlife ATF+4® Derco Colombia S.A.S. ATF+4® S.America
NAPA ATF+4® Ashland Inc. ATF+4® Global
Northland ATF+4® Northland Products Company ATF+4® U.S.A.
O'Reilly ATF+4® Ozark Automotive Distributors ATF+4® Global
Parts Master ATF+4® Ashland Inc. ATF+4® Global
Parts Plus ATF+4® Ashland Inc. ATF+4® Global
Pennzoil ATF+4® SOPUS Products ATF+4® Global
Pennzoil Platinum ATF+4® SOPUS Products ATF+4® Global
Petro-Canada ATF+4® Petro-Canada Lubricants Inc. ATF+4® Global
Prime Guard ATF+4® Prime Guard ATF+4® Global
Proline ATF+4® Warren Performance Products ATF+4® Global
Pronto ATF+4® National Pronto Association ATF+4® Global
Pure Guard ATF+4® Omni Industries ATF+4® U.S.A.
Quaker State ATF+4® SOPUS Products ATF+4® Global
Rallye ATF+4® Rallye Lubricants ATF+4® Global
Ravenol ATF+4® Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH ATF+4® Global
Sinopec ATF+4® Lubricant Company Sinopec Corp. ATF+4® Global
STP ATF+4® STP Products Co. STP Products Co. U.S.A.
Super Tech ATF+4® Wal-Mart Stores Inc. ATF+4® Global
Tutela Transmission Force4 ATF+4® Petronas Lubricants International ATF+4® Global
Value Tech ATF+4® Value Tech ATF+4® Global
Valvoline ATF+4® Valvoline ATF+4® Global
Valvoline PRO ATF+4® Valvoline ATF+4® Global
Wolf's Head ATF+4® Wolf's Head Oil Company ATF+4® Global
XCEL ATF+4® XCEL Lubricants ATF+4® Global
(Quanhu) 全护 ATF+4® DFM Castrol ATF+4® China


^^^officially licensed ATF+4 brands^^^

Only use ones from the above list.

As for PS system any ATF or PS fluid will work,just don't mix PS fluid and ATF unless in a emergency.

For the T-case,again, any ATF will work and you can mix them.You can also use any 5w-20 engine oil(same viscosity as ATF) but don't mix ATF and engine oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:59 pm 
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I've been running walmarts supertech in mine. It's the cheapest ATF+4 I could find.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:36 am 
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What I wanted to know is should I buy the cheapest ATF+4 I could find ro a branded name that is more expensive?

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:20 am 
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joohn wrote:
What I wanted to know is should I buy the cheapest ATF+4 I could find ro a branded name that is more expensive?



I think it comes down to personnel preference. If you need more piece of mind, buy a name brand atf. If not, get a cheaper one

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 Post subject: Re: Auto oil
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:37 pm 
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I think that if its to ATF+4 spec, then you should be ok with whatever. The branded MAY have some added benefits(no idea what), but as long as what you buy is ATF+4 there shouldn't be an issue.

My original reply was based on the fact that over here (England) there isn't the choice of manufacturers you seem to have in the US. I have the choice of Mopar from a dealer or Comma from Amazon, and thats it! I didn't realise quite what a choice you have.

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